Connected to TAPPED IN on Thu Jun 20 16:46:02 2002 PDT.

TonyaD has arrived.
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JimL says, "Hi Tonya."

TonyaD says, "Hi Jim"

KimberlyAF has connected.

JimL asks, "Ready to ask Linda some interesting questions?"

JimL says, "Hi Kim - welcome."

TonyaD says, "that hot tub will feel good tonight--I hope so...the
              questions"

KimberlyAF says, "Hi	"

TonyaD says, "Hi Kim"

JimL says, "We'll meet Linda in the Hottub room - I see somebody is
            already there."

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TonyaD exclaims, "okay...I'm going downstairs for a minute.  see ya
                  soon!"

JimL says, "okay - later."

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JimL says, "welcome back kim"

JohnKit has arrived.
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KarenEd finds her way in.
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JimL asks, "Hi Karen - how is the hottub?"

KimberlyAF says, "I was reading the tour log and saw that I should click
                  on the detach button	"

JohnKit says, "hi karen"

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KathleenJH has connected.

JimL says, "Yes, that gives you lots more scroll space."

KarenEd exclaims, "hello- I was waiting for you guys in the hot tub!"

KimberlyAF says, "When I did, I lost my screen!	"

JimL says, "Welcome John."

JohnKit finds his way in.
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JimL asks, "Oops, where did it go?"

KarenEd asks, "How do you get more space?"

KimberlyAF says, "I couldn't find it, so I logged out.  I'll try again!	"

JimL says, "Try clicking on the "Detach" tab."

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JimL says, "If that's a problem, Kim, then don't worry."

LindaX [beepme] materializes from another part of the community.
timed-eye follows LindaX to here.
third-eye follows LindaX to here.

KathleenJH finds her way in.
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KarenEd says, "Now there's no ambiance"

KimberlyAF says, "Ok, but now I've lost my map!  Is that ok?	"

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LindaX [beepme] says, "hi"

KathleenJH has arrived.
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JimL exclaims, "Hi Linda - welcome!"

TonyaD has arrived.
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KarenEd exclaims, "HI!"

LindaX [beepme] says, "I'm wearing my pink hot tub towel"

TonyaD waves hi!

JimL says, "Okay, we're actually going to meet next door, in the Hottub."

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KathleenJH says, "see you there"

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JimL says, "I've just welcoming people here."

KathyKD has arrived.
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JimL says, "Hi Kathy."

KathyKD says, "Hi."

JimL says, "Linda and a bunch of others are in the hottub room."

JimL says, "next door"

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Stopped recording in CTER (#5847) at Thu Jun 20 16:52:29 2002 PDT.
Started recording in HotTub (#54766)[TappedIn] at Thu Jun 20 16:52:29
2002 PDT.

LindaX [beepme] says, "nice lookin' hot tub"

JohnKit [to LindaX]: "thanks"

KathyKD says, "hi all"

KarenEd asks, "How's the water?"

KimberlyAF says, "It's HOT!	"

LindaX [beepme] asks, "i'm early Jim. Do you want me to step out for a
                       bit?"

JimL says, "Yes, Sandy and I spent too much time searching the web."

JimL says, "for the hottub"

LindaX [beepme] cranks up the jets on the tub

LindaX [beepme] lol

KarenEd gets in

JimL says, "No, stay - people will be arriving over the next couple
            minutes."

KimberlyAF says, "Oooh!  Thanks!  So relaxing!	"

KarenEd . o O ( aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh )

TonyaD gets in  very nice

LindaX says, "see Jim, they always get right into the hot tub vibe. i
              can't tell you guys how many transcripts I have of folks
              saying "aaaaaaah" at the hot tub."

JimL [to LindaX]: "Everyone will have read your "hottub" paper and I've
                   asked them to come with interesting questions."

LindaX says, "i brought you a snapple"

JimL exclaims, "Thanks!"

JohnKit [to LindaX]: "is that repeating the novice practice--the hottub
                      thing?"

KarenEd asks, "I brought beer- anyone care to join me?"

LindaX says, "not a good mix with a hot tub. be careful."

KimberlyAF says, "No, I want a Snapple!	"

JimL [to LindaX]: "have you had any more thoughts about what you want to
                   do with that paper?"

MistyM has arrived.
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JimL [to LindaX]: "What's your icon a picture of?"

DiaL has arrived.
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JimL says, "Welcome Misty and Dia."

MistyM says, "Hi."

JohnKit has disconnected.

DiaL says, "Hi"

TonyaD waves

TimothyP has arrived.
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KimberlyAF says, "Thank you, Linda!	"

KimberlyAF says, "Hi everyone!	"

BrianW has arrived.
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LindaX says, "sorry jim. didn't mean to yank your snapple. i needed to
              copy it."

JimL says, "Make yourselves comfortable - we'll start in a few minutes."

JohnKit has connected.

JimL says, "Welcome back John."

BrianW exclaims, "Hot tubes getting full!"

LindaX opens a snapple peach ice tea

JodiNA has arrived.
JimL says, "Nice thing about a virtual hot tub - always room for more."

JodiNA's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.
HeatherfS has arrived.
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LindaX fires up the sandalwood incense burner

JohnKit [to JimL]: "Tried to refresh to see the icons and got logged out"

EliseJ has arrived.
VanessaU finds her way in.
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JimL says, "Welcome Elise, Vanessa, and Heather."

LindaX programs the CD player for spiral and calls for CD titles.

VanessaU says, "Hello"

HeatherfS says, "Hello"

KathyKD asks, "How do you get in the hot tub?"

JodiNA says, "Hi guys"

JohnKit says, "Miles Davis, please"

HeatherfS says, "Just jump on in"

JimL [to LindaX]: "You're really getting the room ready for some relaxed
                   discussion"

KimberlyAF says, "Jazz would be good!	"

DiaL says, "I love jazz."

LindaX puts on Miles Davis Sketches of Spain

KimberlyAF says, "Perfect choice!	"

BrianW says, "How about Mozart, nice and relaxing."

DiaL says, "Also good."

LindaX says, "hand me your choice CD"

JohnKit . o O ( Circle in the Round )

LindaX slips in a little Monk

HeatherfS says, "Too relaxing I might fall asleep in this hot tub"

DiaL says, "That's a given."

JodiNA says, "I agree"

JohnKit . o O ( mysterioso )

TonyaD exclaims, "it feels great!"

LindaX says, "we have smell, sound, and touch. we're all yours jim"

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JimL holds up a BIG sign: | Welcome Linda! |
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KarenEd asks, "Sorry to ruin the mood, perhaps I should be in the
               classroom, but  I do have a question...Linda, my biggest
               concern when I started reading was wether or not this was
               applicable for a high school classroom.  I am afraid that
               I have decided so far that it isn't.  What do you think
               about that?"

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                                                   (oo)
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JohnKit holds up a BIG cow:  * | linda is the bomb! ||
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LindaX says, "well, THIS isn't  but the MOO environment is."

LindaX grins

MaggieVa has arrived.
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LindaX says, "i've worked wiht h.s. kids in a MOO before."

JimL says, "You'd want different environments for students than for
            professional development."

KarenEd asks, "doing what?"

LindaX says, "they actually do well."

LindaX says, "history simulation... and also had a doct'l student do a
              conflict resolution thing"

TonyaD asks, "I thought a VR of the patio at our school might work?"

Sandy [guest] has arrived.

LindaX says, "somewhere in our old MOO is a virtual Great Plains"

KarenEd asks, "what about students who don't have access?"

JohnKit says, "good for you Karen"

LindaX says, "they fall on the wrong side of the digital divide"

TonyaD says, "big problem"

LindaX asks, "do you think schools can plug that gap karen?"

KarenEd asks, "Do you just let them fall then?"

Sandy [guest] says, "Hi everyone - move over, I'm jumping in :-)"

LindaX says, "i asked first"

LindaX grins

TonyaD exclaims, "hey Sandy!"

JimL says, "The digital divide in schools is smaller than in the world
            at large."

HeatherfS says, "how so"

KarenEd says, "I think schools may be able to during the school day, but
               after..."

LindaX says, "ah, but... what is the image of the computer in use at the
              school versus the image of the computer the middle class
              kids sees at home."

HeatherfS says, "it all depends on the school district"

MerrillC arrives from nowhere.
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LindaX says, "i worry that we are recreating the social structure. the
              new ditch digging job will be data entry"

HeatherfS says, "hmmm"

MistyM says, "interesting"

BrianW says, "It seems with my students, they have more access at home
              than at school."

HeatherfS says, "me too"

VanessaU says, "very insightful"

KimberlyAF says, "I find that my students do to!	"

LindaX says, "and at home i bet they use it very differently than at
              school"

JodiNA says, "Mine, too."

JohnKit asks, "kids use computers at school to do school things, at home
               they do home things. we should bridge the gap?"

MistyM says, "not me. my kids are hooked up everywhere."

HeatherfS says, "I wouldn't be so sure"

KathyKD says, "My school is so rural their is no dial in unless your
               dialing long distance.  Many parents won't support that."

TonyaD says, "students at my school hope to do data entry during the
              summer rather than detassling"

LindaX asks, "the burbs?"

MistyM says, "I could probably join a chat with them right now."

JohnKe has arrived.
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JimL says, "Complicating things is that its a moving target.  Access
            will increase and costs decrease."

LindaX asks, "detassling? am i having a cultural disadavantage moment?"

KarenEd says, "I work in a low middle to low class blue collar community
               I am lucky some of them have dinner"

KimberlyAF says, "Corn!	"

BrianW says, "We just recently started putting homework and other
              assignments on the school web page for kids at home."

TonyaD says, "lots of field around here--dirty, hot work"

LindaX says, "kewl. who knew. we just fish it out of the bin at Vons."

JodiNA says, "I have first graders, but with supposrtave parents"

LindaX says, "ah, so is the help desk or the data entry desk... in a
              way."

JimL [to LindaX]: "Bet you think they braid the tops of asparagus."

LindaX figures the help desk is the next step up from macdonalds fry cook

LindaX grins

JimL asks, "You don't like help desks?"

EliseJ writes on the whiteboard...
LindaX says, "it's a kind of job."

LindaX says, "it's a kind of information age job."

JimL asks, "What do you and your students do in TAPPED IN when you're
            not sitting around in the hottub?"

LindaX says, "argue"

EliseJ leaves for the 5th.
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KathleenJH says, "about what"

JohnKe finds his way out.

LindaX says, "things like the digital divide. standardized testing.
              standards. curriculum."

EliseJ has arrived.
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TimothyP says, "I like to argue with my students"

LindaX says, "well, we're nice about it"

KathleenJH says, "The old standards.."

HeatherfS says, "hey I'm with you there linda"

TimothyP says, "they like to argue with me"

JimL says, "Yes, we haven't had enough arguing so far in CTER :-)"

KimberlyAF says, "It's not much fun to argue with 5th graders!	"

TimothyP says, "I call it a gray matter exercise"

KathleenJH says, "They can't win."

LindaX says, "it's hard to get started cause we're adults and we know
              we're supposed to be nice."

TonyaD says, "cute  Tim"

AllisonD has arrived.
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TimothyP says, "thank you"

HeatherfS says, "but isn't that why we use these rooms"

JohnKe has arrived.
JohnKe's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.

HeatherfS says, "to lose some of our inhibitions"

LindaX says, "let's ask jim and sandy. hee hee hee."

JohnKit asks, "but linda, in this sound bite environment, how many
               meaningful arguments can be posed unless there are
               protocols?"

HeatherfS says, "we are in essence faceless"

LindaX says, "ah, yes heather."

JimL asks, "Do you structure the arguments or do they just happen?"

LindaX asks, "are you all at home or in a lab on campus?"

BrianW says, "home"

HeatherfS says, "at home"

TonyaD says, "home"

MistyM says, "at home"

KimberlyAF says, "home	"

KathyKD says, "home"

JodiNA says, "home"

JohnKit says, "home"

JohnKe says, "home"

KathleenJH says, "home"

LindaX says, "i provoke, Jim"

JimL says, "Everyone is in a different place."

DiaL says, "home"

MaggieVa says, "home...campus is far.."

KarenEd says, "home"

VanessaU says, "home"

AllisonD says, "family birthday party-inlaws"

KarenEd says, "basement"

HeatherfS says, "oohhhh"

MistyM exclaims, "yikes, Allison!"

JohnKit says, "every home is a different place, just ask your students"

TonyaD says, "bring in some cake"

TimothyP says, "I think this kind of forum, especially for hihg school
                kids, allows people to leave their inhabitions behind and
                participate in meaningful discourse"

AllisonD exclaims, "ice cream cake!"

MistyM exclaims, "yea!"

HeatherfS exclaims, "which can be dangerous in high school!!"

JohnKe . o O ( MMMmmm Cake )

VanessaU says, "yumm"

KathyKD exclaims, "yummy!"

TonyaD says, "YES"

JimL asks, "Have enough virtual cake to share with everyone, Alli?"

KarenEd asks, "How would I regulate it, if I set it up aren't I
               responsible?"

HeatherfS asks, "Linda how do you get your students to focus?"

TonyaD says, "don't serve cake"

MistyM says, "good question, karen."

AllisonD exclaims, "yes--chocolate mint (imagine!"

LindaX says, "one cool thing an instructor did once was to ask students
              to take a picture of their computer space at home and post
              it. the students assembled a page that showed everyone 'in
              their space' at class time."

KarenEd exclaims, "PUT DOWN THAT CAKE AND PAY ATTENTION!"

KimberlyAF says, "I love that idea!	"

LindaX lol at Heather's question

KarenEd says, "he hehe"

JimL says, "cute idea."

LindaX says, "well, we never have more than 11 or so on at once."

KimberlyAF says, "I'd like to see where all of you are at!	"

LindaX says, "and, this stuff settles down after awhile."

LindaX says, "sometimes i say, "okay, we're on the clock.""

BrianW says, "Well, I have cat boxes next to me, not a pretty sight"

KarenEd [to Linda-]: "what does lol mean?"

LindaX says, "and that signals the focus"

MistyM says, "laughing out loud"

The printer begins to hum as EliseJ prints out the data from the
HotTub...

HeatherfS says, "and there are cheerios on my floor from my son"

JimL asks, "What difference will it make when we have voice?"

LindaX says, "we also use rotflmao"

EliseJ projects Copy of HotTub whiteboard (06/20/02).
---------------
Welcome to the CTER HotTub!
That hot tub looks inviting
Help! I can't seem to find you.
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JohnKit says, "repeating novice practice"

JodiNA says, "I have bears everywhere."

JimL says, "LOL = Laughing Out Loud"

EliseJ has lost her link.

LindaX says, "well, you can only listen to one voice at a time, but you
              can read multiple threads of convo at once"

TimothyP exclaims, "my personal space is like my mind....cluttered and
                    diorganized!!!"

MistyM says, "I'm sitting in my unfinished den. not too exciting, but
              I'm comfy in my big soft chair."

HeatherfS exclaims, "if you can speed read!"

LindaX says, "me too tim"

JohnKit says, "same as a cocktail party"

JimL exclaims, "Gee, and I thought everyone was here in the hottub!"

LindaX says, "well, there's 20 people in here right now."

DiaL says, "I wish"

MistyM says, "cocktails in the hot tub? :-)"

EliseJ has connected.
HeatherfS exclaims, "oh yeah!"

KarenEd says, "little cramped-"

JodiNA says, "My suit si wet from this afternoon"

MistyM says, "me too."

KarenEd says, "me too"

BrianW asks, "go swimming?"

KimberlyAF says, "I agree with whoever said that the students would
                  settle down after "playing" with the technology a bit!	"

JohnKit [to JimL]: "how do I turn my recorder off?"

JodiNA says, "I tried to get a tan"

LindaX asks, "so if i said, "okay, let's punch in on the clock now"
              would you not be inclined to focus up?"

HeatherfS says, "good question john"

KarenEd exclaims, "me too- no luck!"

EliseJ asks, "I finally just got in.  What did I miss?"

HeatherfS says, "maybe"

KarenEd says, "ok..."

KathleenJH says, "sure"

LindaX says, "btw, i understand that a number of students in my classes
              run back channels on AIM simultaneously"

MaggieVa says, "there are a lot of people talking about a lot of
                different things... I forgot what I read three lines
                ago..I am so confused..:{"

LindaX says, "pick it up John and it stops recording"

JohnKit is patient

EliseJ says, "Me , too"

HeatherfS asks, "pick what up?"

KarenEd says, "his recorder"

JodiNA says, "It is hard to keep up with the reading snce it moves so
              fast."

VanessaU says, "I have the same problem Maggie"

KarenEd says, "i kmow"

JimL says, "I'll post the whole transcript so if anyone misses something
            you can read it later."

KarenEd says, "thanks"

MaggieVa asks, "can we get the window top be bigger..?"

LindaX says, "okay, sit on your hands a sec. and i'll explain ...
              briefly."

BrianW says, "Remember to detach your screen."

LindaX grins

KarenEd says, "you'll lose the picture, though"

JimL says, "If you click on "detach" you'll get a bigger screen."

KarenEd says, "no more ho tub"

JodiNA says, "Thanks Brian"

KimberlyAF says, "As long as I had time to chat with my friends and be
                  silly, I would settle down if asked to!  Of course, I
                  teach 5th grade; maybe high schoolers wouldn't!	"

JimL says, "Except for Karen, who loses her screen."

MaggieVa says, "oh yeah, thats right...I like the picture."

KarenEd (

TonyaD exclaims, "hs can definately multi-task!"

DiaL says, "I think high schoolers would too."

LindaX says, "the adults are worse than the kids kimberly"

KimberlyAF says, "No, that was me who loses my screen!	"

GloriaS arrives from nowhere.
GloriaS's personal recorder follows GloriaS to here.
Palm Pilot  follows GloriaS to here.

TonyaD asks, "are they?"

TimothyP says, "high schoolers are actually more used to this technology"

KarenEd asks, "Once again, how would I regulate it?"

HeatherfS says, "true"

JimL says, "Sorry, Kim loses her screen."

EliseJ says, "Yes, I had to ask my daughter for help."

LindaX asks, "hi gloriaS i know i owe you a fax. darn. forgot again. was
              that you calling me?"

VanessaU says, "You can move the text box"

KimberlyAF says, "I think adults are always worse than the kids!  Look
                  at the teacher meetings!	"

GloriaS says, "yes"

MistyM says, "I agree."

DiaL says, "good point"

TonyaD says, "oh yeah..."

LindaX says, "gloriaS is a student in my class. ask her how they do it."

GloriaS says, "fax numbert    714-692-7409   thank a bunch...."

HeatherfS says, "at least there I get donuts"

JohnKit [to LindaX]: "can't shut the damn thing off. I feel like an ER
                      MD at the opera."

MaggieVa says, "alright you guys, now I can read a lot better, you are
                so helpful"

GloriaS says, "how we do what"

JodiNA says, "That is true.  I have a hard time during meetings because
              I am used to teaching, not listening"

JimL says, "Hi Gloria. The question is how do students focus in this
            kind of discussion."

LindaX copoies down the number.

GloriaS says, "hmmmmmmm it is hard in the beginning but  you will get
               used to it"

BrianW asks, "Any teacher meeting ever civil?"

AllisonD asks, "Don't they just need practice?"

LindaX thinks Jodi is on to an important piece of the experience in TI

GloriaS says, "the more that you do it........."

KarenEd asks, "what do you teach?"

GloriaS says, "corp training...."

JohnKit [to LindaX]: "the cheatsheet says "/get CTERecorder" to shut it
                      off..."

GloriaS says, "brb"

LindaX says, "yeah, get means pick it up"

JimL [to JohnKit]: "but you have to give the name of YOUR recorder to
                    turn it off."

LindaX says, "you scared her"

LindaX lol

HeatherfS asks, "what are we talking about?"

JimL says, "oops."

LindaX says, "okay, we have about 11 or 12 folks."

JohnKit says, "I tried, and will try again"

LindaX says, "we have a topic which i introduce"

EliseJ asks, "Why do we want to turn off the recorder?"

JimL says, "GA"

LindaX says, "we do chitchat till everyone arrives"

HeatherfS says, "oh"

LindaX says, "then i call for a roll call"

HeatherfS says, "oh"

LindaX says, "then i say something like "we're on the clock""

JimL says, "I think everyone's here who's going to be here."

KarenEd exclaims, "Karen Eder is here!"

JohnKit asks, "Lauryn Hill?"

JimL says, "on the clock?""

HeatherfS says, "Lauryn.....Lauryn.....Lauryn"

LindaX says, "i also watch for smart stuff that gets trampled and i copy
              and paste it back into the convo, and ask folks to consider
              it"

KarenEd exclaims, "you guys are killing me softly!"

JimL exclaims, "Good idea!"

JohnKit says, "love ya heather, but we should be quiet now"

TonyaD says, "cute Karen"

LindaX says, "like this:"

HeatherfS says, "ok"

KarenEd says, "hehe"

============== Linda shares knowledge.=============
              I am used to teaching, not listening"

JimL says, "Hi Gloria. The question is how do students focus in this
            kind of discussion."

LindaX copoies down the number.

GloriaS says, "hmmmmmmm it is hard in the beginning but  you will get
               used to it"

BrianW asks, "Any teacher meeting ever civil?"

AllisonD asks, "Don't they just need practice?"

LindaX thinks Jodi is on to an important piece of the experience in TI

===============ttttttthat's all folks!================

TimothyP says, "you would manage it much like a Socratic discussion in a
                regular classroom then , Linda"

LindaX says, "i wish tim. i try."

JimL asks, "does that mean just asking questions?"

LindaX says, "i think socrates thinks he is pulling knowledge from the
              learner"

HeatherfS says, "open-ended ones"

JodiNA says, "It is hard to focus in a meeting when you are trying to
              get your mind prepared for teh school day."

TimothyP says, "but you can question, redirect, and reiterate the
                important stuff"

LindaX says, "i think i'm listening for interesting ideas. i'm big on
              emergent curric."

LindaX nods

HeatherfS asks, "emergent curric?"

LindaX asks, "any early childhood people in here?"

JodiNA says, "I teach first"

LindaX says, "emergent... emerging from the moment/interaction/scene"

HeatherfS asks, "I teach high school does that qualify?"

JodiNA says, "ot earlt, but young"

JimL says, "I think the really huge digital divide will soon be age -
            people below the age of 30 vs. those over 30."

LindaX says, "it's a c ommon notion in early childhood ed"

JodiNA says, "not early, and right now I spell like tham."

GloriaS has disconnected.

TimothyP says, "LOL jodi"

JimL says, "Certainly young folks can multitask much more easily than we
            can."

LindaX nods

EliseJ says, "That's for sure."

LindaX says, "but we can learn."

JimL says, "Now we're really scared off Gloria."

DiaL says, "I'm sure of it"

LindaX says, "i don't think i can ever go back to having ONE computer
              screen."

HeatherfS says, "how do you do these chats with young students
                 especially with low level typing skills"

LindaX says, "i don't"

TonyaD says, "so thirty is the dividing age..hmmm"

TimothyP says, "I am on the fence then"

JodiNA says, "Mine is off everyday."

LindaX says, "i've seen my 8 year old on AIM though"

AllisonD says, "they always have to multi task--they are used to
                commercial breaks.  I feel like I run a three ring circus
                to keep their attention"

MistyM asks, "do the lower-level students get left off?"

JimL says, "Yes, I always say "Don't trust anyone under 30.""

DiaL says, "I'm over it."

KathyKD asks, "If you were using tech before thirty are your chances of
               staying up to date good?"

EliseJ says, "But there is no punctuation or spelling on AIM"

LindaX [to MistyM]: "no. they're doing other things. have you seen a
                     cybiko?"

BrianW says, "I'm close, 28."

MistyM asks, "cybiko?"

JohnKe says, "I have students coming in already typing 70+ WPM all from
              AIM"

JodiNA says, "I had a parent concerned that her daughter was going to be
              left behind because I was moving on."

JimL asks, "What's a cybiko?"

LindaX says, "i actually think that's an itneresting issue elise. a lot
              of email is more like written talk than text."

TonyaD asks, "what Kathy said..Keeping up?"

KarenEd says, "inda- I'm only 23- should I leave>"

LindaX lol at JohnKe's remark.

JodiNA says, "i am not 30"

HeatherfS says, "what do you mean written talk, not texyt"

JimL says, "No, you're the advantaged one, Karen."

DiaL says, "ppunctuation just slows you down"

LindaX says, "now THERE'S a curriculum with student outcomes in
              keyboarding"

HeatherfS says, "please explain"

DiaL says, "I'n slow evuff already"

JohnKit asks, "mulitask they can, but does that multitasking translate
               to concentration on a specific problem?"

HeatherfS says, "good question"

TonyaD says, "no, not always"

LindaX says, "written talk >> informal register, horrible referents,
              oral syntax, fragments"

TimothyP says, "that is why I type so slowly, as an English teacher I
                love punctuation"

JodiNA says, "e start with type to learn, but theat was 4th graders."

KimberlyAF says, "Not in 5th grade!	"

AllisonD says, "I wonder the same thing, John"

JimL says, "Multitasking is good for certain kinds of problems, but not
            for others."

MistyM says, "Me too, usually, Tim."

JohnKit exclaims, "Chaucer would've loved this chat!"

LindaX hands TIm a semicolon for safe keeping

MistyM -)

TimothyP says, "thank you Linda"

LindaX ponders Chaucer.

JimL laughs

HeatherfS asks, "so do you think this type of task is applicable to all
                 curriuculums?"

AllisonD says, "I guess if this is where communication is heading, it's
                important for them to be really good at more than one
                thing at a time"

KarenEd says, "I think this would be good for a study session"

JodiNA says, "i am a type as fast as I think, so that is my excuse for
              misspelled words."

LindaX says, "I was an Engl. major too. I thin Chaucer would have loved
              the IRC chat rooms"

EliseJ says, "I agree with you Karen"

MistyM says, "it's good for organizational skills."

KimberlyAF says, "I like the study session idea!	"

JimL says, "Its part of the whole "just in time/just enough learning"
            thing."

AllisonD says, "I teach Spanish--I would like to use this, but trust me,
                we wouldn't be moving fast"

KimberlyAF says, "Sometimes my students call me on the phone the night
                  before tests!	"

KarenEd says, "It would be optional- not graded- no one gets penalized"

BrianW says, "Is it fair to say that this type of communication will
              replace long distance calls when voice becomes available."

KathyKD says, "It would be interesting to invite parents in to the study
               session so they know what their kid is studying."

TimothyP says, "I really think this forum allows all kids to
                participate...I would like to use this for discussion
                instead of yapping in class all the time"

MistyM says, "me too."

JodiNA says, "i don't like them to know my number"

HeatherfS says, "hmmm I like the parent idea"

LindaX agrees with Jodi

MistyM exclaims, "I have students at my house studying!"

JodiNA says, "i had parents email me to communicate."

EliseJ asks, "But would most parents take the time?"

KarenEd says, "homework questions- you could have office hours"

LindaX says, "be careful Misty"

KathleenJH says, "It would take my students too long to type things."

JimL says, "It allows some kids to participate that don't now, but it
            doesnt involve all."

KimberlyAF says, "I don't give it out, but I live in the community!	"

HeatherfS says, "wow, that's a liability"

LindaX says, "you're a lawsuit waiting to happen"

VanessaU asks, "I work a lot on communication skills in group
                discussions, do you lose that here?"

TonyaD exclaims, "my parents take the time--i always seem to have
                  contact--kids hate it!"

MistyM says, "small town. very small town."

MaggieVa says, "its hard for me to keep up with this conversation :) 
                Younger kids would not benefit from something like
this.."

LindaX says, "Vanessa, I find it hard to teach F2F now"

HeatherfS asks, "I have a lot of special ed students have you tried this
                 with them?"

EliseJ says, "I just use my email, separate from my home email to
              communicate with parents."

KarenEd says, "What if they stick around after you leave- is that a
               lawsuit waiting to happen>"

KathleenJH says, "I agree Maggie"

JimL says, "Well, it would move slower with younger kids."

JodiNA says, "i had a phone in my room so i was able to call parents."

TonyaD says, "I agree with elise"

MistyM says, "me too."

DiaL says, "Also slower with less people"

MistyM says, "I mean I had a phone in my room."

KarenEd says, "me too"

JimL says, "Yes, that too, Dia.  We're pushing the upper limit here."

MaggieVa says, "good, Im not the only one struggling to read and type? 
                IM is one thing, chat rooms are quite another.."

LindaX says, "I wish my doctor let me use email to contact him or his
              nurses"

TimothyP says, "I hate the phone in my room"

TonyaD says, "I have a phone and they call during class-errr"

JodiNA says, "next year I won't have a phone"

KathleenJH says, "Having a phone might be nice."

EliseJ says, "I found it hard to find a phone open during the day"

DiaL says, "I can't keep up either"

TimothyP says, "yes tonya"

LindaX [to MaggieVa]: "there's way too many of us aat once right now."

HeatherfS says, "I don't even have internet in my room let alone a phone"

JodiNA says, "it was hard keeping the students quiet while I had to call
              home."

KarenEd exclaims, "During cLASS?!"

LindaX says, "maybe we should talk about the digital divide for
              teachers."

TonyaD exclaims, "Heather, that's crazy!"

MaggieVa says, "phones are good, but we picked air conditioning and
                never regretted it"

JodiNA says, "some parents have caller Id, so they don't answer"

HeatherfS exclaims, "tell me about it!!"

EliseJ asks, "You use the phone while kids are in the room?"

TimothyP exclaims, "a/c all the way!!!"

JimL [to LindaX]: "good idea, Linda."

AllisonD says, "there are a lot of people talking at once, but the loud
                people always get the floor in classrooms--not so here"

MaggieVa says, "my parents don't have phones"

TonyaD says, "our school just got the internet last year; talk about
              catching up"

HeatherfS says, "but the fast people do here"

============== Linda shares knowledge.=============

You say, "maybe we should talk about the digital divide for teachers."

JimL [to you]: "good idea, Linda."
===============ttttttthat's all folks!================

AllisonD says, "true"

JodiNA says, "My behavior plan the third warning was a phoen call."

LindaX says, "see, i picked up and saved a thread to re-insert into the
              convo."

LindaX grins

JohnKit says, "I have colleagues who won't use emal."

TonyaD says, "I am the help desk in my building"

BrianW says, "I worked on a project this last year that is trying to
              bridge the digital divide for teachers."

TonyaD says, "me too John"

JimL [to LindaX]: "I'll have to ask you later how you do that."

VanessaU says, "I agreee that the faster have an advantage"

DiaL says, "The ones that refuse to use email are missing out"

JohnKit says, "yes, cool move linda"

KathyKD exclaims, "We are switching to a manidtory egrading system. 
                   Many teachers are TERRIFIED!"

EliseJ says, "I am struggling to keep up with you fast typists."

LindaX says, "wow, these guys are wonderfully self-sufficient Jim. Maybe
              we should slip out and grab a brew"

LindaX winks

HeatherfS says, "actually as our staff becomes younger and younger that
                 divide is shortening"

JimL asks, "are you talking about differences between schools or between
            teachers within a school?"

MistyM says, "THank you, Linda. Bring us one back."

KathleenJH says, "egrading , yikes"

KarenEd says, "ours too"

LindaX rotflmao

JohnKe says, "I love our e grading"

MistyM says, "I use a grading system that is networked. I like it."

KathyKD says, "I love it too."

HeatherfS says, "60% of our staff is 35 and younger"

EliseJ says, "My daughter had it for spanish and I liked it."

LindaX watches it scroll by

JohnKit says, "what is rotflomao"

MaggieVa says, "itss not like teachers can't learn, its that they don't
                care too."

JohnKe says, "it allows us to email grade updates to parents"

KarenEd asks, "Like cbase?"

TimothyP says, "I feel as though I am on the cusp...I grasp some of this
                technology stuff, yet much of it still seems out of my
                league"

KimberlyAF exclaims, "My school is overcrowded making all of our
                      computer access difficult - for students and
                      teachers!"

DiaL says, "I hated egrading"

HeatherfS says, "most want to use technology but can;'t"

JodiNA says, "The school I was at was older, and already into clicks. 
              They had happy hours that some weren't invited to"

JohnKit [to LindaX]: "thanx"

EliseJ says, "How awful, Jodi"

VanessaU says, "I agree with Tim, sometimes I feel like I know what I'm
                doing but then other times..."

JimL asks, "ROT  = rolling on the floor,  what's flomao?"

MaggieVa says, "most of the teachers in my district are like 'oh, Im
                retiring in 3 years, what do I care?' Sad."

JodiNA exclaims, "they were older, and not too exciting!"

LindaX pulls out a pen knife and begins detassling for money.

KarenEd asks, "Linda- what does it mean?"

HeatherfS says, "well let them retire then"

KimberlyAF says, "I'm so old that I've had to cross the divide.  It
                  wasn't pretty!	"

AllisonD goes out.
AllisonD's personal recorder (recording) goes out.

JimL says, "Good summer job, Linda."

JohnKe says, "The email feature of egrading is only useful if your
              demographics allow for it"

TonyaD says, "that's correct Linda"

TimothyP says, "plus, our school has 64 computer for 900 kids...you have
                to wrestle to get space in there"

TonyaD says, "don't forget long sleeves"

JohnKit [to JimL]: "typo?"

EliseJ says, "I agree, John"

LindaX asks, "do i need gloves Jim?"

KimberlyAF says, "Tim, I know what you mean!	"

JohnKit [to JimL]: "the ponint was there"

JimL says, "I've never detassled, so don't ask me."

BrianW asks, "Does anyone else get state funding for technology?"

LindaX says, "it sounds rather risque"

JodiNA says, "me neither"

TonyaD says, "yes you do and long sleeves with pants"

TonyaD says, "raised on a farm"

KimberlyAF says, "The tassles stick to your skin!	"

KathyKD says, "Yes or your hands will be cut to bits"

DiaL says, "I'd wear gloves if I were you"

TonyaD says, "gloves definately gloves"

LindaX says, "sometimes, if a subgroupo is really rolling on a topic no
              one else particulary wants to talk about, i ask them to
              take it to newsgroups"

MistyM says, "I loved detassling. Minus the dirty mouths. :-)"

JohnKe [to BrianW]: "NO"

KarenEd asks, "what are we talking about?"

EliseJ says, "You have lossed me"

DiaL says, "It 's not a fun job"

MaggieVa says, "We have a safe to learn grant that we use to fund an
                internet class, other than that, no"

JohnKit [to LindaX]: "how do we get there?"

KathyKD asks, "Sfe to learn for internet?"

LindaX says, "threaded discussion. i mean, go post a thread on it."

KarenEd asks, "how?"

HeatherfS says, "we do but the "techies" eat it all up on their programs
                 and the rest of us are left high and dry"

JohnKe says, "I have found that once you hit a certain technology
              platau, $ is gone"

TonyaD exclaims, "our administrator said we can't have classes outside
                  of school--insurance reasons?!?!"

MistyM says, "good idea, Linda. We use threaded discussions."

KathyKD asks, "how do they qualify that?"

LindaX says, "do you guys use threaded discussions"

JohnKit says, "don't know how yet"

LindaX is highly amused

MistyM says, "Only in my online class though"

MaggieVa says, "We use the safe to learn grant for other programs too,
                internet class just happens to be one of th eprograms"

EliseJ asks, "What is that?"

JimL says, "yes, WebBoard is a threaded discussion"

MistyM says, "I mean the one i teach."

EliseJ says, "Oh, Now I see."

HeatherfS asks, "please explain threaded?"

LindaX says, "so i'd say, hey kathy, why don't you take that to
              newsgroups and we can continue on it there."

KathyKD says, "we had to explain in detail how it qualified for safety."

KathyKD says, "sorry."

LindaX lol

JimL says, "When you reply, your reply is threaded with the note your
            replied to."

LindaX says, "see? it works."

MistyM says, "I use mostly asynchronous threaded discussions"

LindaX lol lol lol

LindaX says, "them's newsgroups Misty"

MaggieVa says, "I have no idea how they were about to get the grant to
                pay for fun stuff like that.."

LindaX says, "newsgroups = usenet groups = web board = threaded
              dsicussion = asynchronous discu"

JimL says, "we use WebBoard."

LindaX nods

MistyM says, "aha"

JohnKit asks, "how different from bulletin board?"

LindaX says, "badda bing badda bam"

HeatherfS asks, "how do we get access to these programs within the
                 school setting?"

LindaX says, "same idea"

LindaX says, "if you have a server, you have a potential news host for
              local use"

HeatherfS says, "oh"

JimL says, "Easier to follow WebBoard, even when you get on and see 100
            new messages waiting for you."

LindaX says, "or you can use a variety of cheap programs for it"

HeatherfS says, "yes I like webboard better"

MistyM says, "I'm going to use it in classroom (offline) at my h.s. next
              year."

BrianW says, "I see getting more class participation using discussions
              like this.  Too many kids are embarrased to speak up in
              class and this would be a great alternative."

TonyaD says, "i agree"

TimothyP says, "I agree with you Brian"

MistyM says, "I like having time to think first."

EliseJ says, "I totally agree"

DiaL says, "It would have worked for me"

LindaX says, "that's where access becomes an issue. asynch means >>  hey
              we're not face to face. so i'm logging in from home? can i
              do that."

JohnKit says, "but few have written on the whiteboard"

MaggieVa says, "too fast for me, or my second graders.."

JodiNA says, "I agree Brian.  I ask more questions on email then in
              person."

KimberlyAF says, "Often they are embarrassed to ask questions too	"

KathyKD says, "I can see discussions becoming student driven rather than
               teacher driven."

VanessaU says, "I'm a thinker and it takes time"

AllisonD finds her way in.
AllisonD's personal recorder follows AllisonD to here.
JohnKe says, "many have verbal problems"

JimL says, "If you use a wide variety of these media, it gives a wider
            range of students opportunites to partcipate."

LindaX [to MaggieVa]: "2nd graders should be f2f"

LindaX says, "imho"

AllisonD projects HotTub.
A foamy, bubbling HotTub.


MistyM says, "I like to mix the ideas."

LindaX nods at Jim's remark

MistyM asks, "imho?"

LindaX is reminded to reset the timer on the hot tub jets

TimothyP says, "That's what I think...this is a means to make
                instruction more dynamic"

JimL says, "imho = In My Humble Opinion."

AllisonD has lost her link.
EliseJ says, "I think my fourth graders should be f2f too"

MistyM says, "Thanks, Jim;"

MaggieVa says, "I missed when you guys were talking aboutf2f"

DiaL asks, "f2f?"

BrianW dunks under quick to clear thoughts

JimL asks, "said somewhat sarcastically?"

MistyM says, "no."

JimL says, "f2f = Face to face"

LindaX says, "i love that line: allison has lost her link. i have days
              wehre i sit in meetings and by gosh, "i have lost my link."
              if you know what i mean."

EliseJ says, "lol"

MaggieVa says, "makes perfect sense"

TonyaD exclaims, "yes!"

JimL laughs

KimberlyAF says, "I think I've lost my link now!						"

MistyM -)

HeatherfS says, "me too"

KarenEd says, "me too"

VanessaU )

JodiNA says, "I agree about elementary being face to gace.  It would
              take a long time for my first graders to ask me a question
              in webboard then in person."

BrianW says, "Never had a link to start with."

KathyKD asks, "how long do your discussions run?"

LindaX says, "i think kids need to be socialized face to face."

HeatherfS says, "sitting in this hot tub is starting to get to me"

LindaX observes heather's pruney fingers

VanessaU says, "I think so too"

KathleenJH says, "That's my opinion to for el ed f2f."

DiaL asks, "Are you gettin sleepy?"

HeatherfS says, "yeah"

KarenEd asks, "and kids aren't kids anymore at 30?"

JimL asks, "who can sleep with all this talk?"

JodiNA says, "I think students need the face to face attention. So many
              jut need that"

MistyM says, "It would definitely be easier with my h.s. students than
              it would be for first graders."

LindaX says, "i'm still in touch wiht my inner child."

EliseJ says, "Some of us"

HeatherfS says, "I have a one year old I can sleep through anything"

KimberlyAF says, "I still like the idea of study groups!	"

KarenEd asks, "all socialization prior is f2f?"

JodiNA exclaims, "they always need to use the bathroom!"

LindaX says, "oh, i'm curious. a lot of my students say that when they
              log off from a TI session they are really wired and can't
              get to sleep."

DiaL asks, "So at what age does it become appropriate?"

MaggieVa says, "i think even older kids, like kids in hs, need the f2f"

MistyM says, "definitely, Maggie."

HeatherfS exclaims, "YESSSS!!!"

TonyaD says, "definately"

BrianW asks, "How about starting the younger ones in small groups (5 or
              less)?"

LindaX wonders how maggie feels about virtual high schools

EliseJ says, "This is a good alternative once in a while."

JimL says, "each medium has its own advantages (and disadvantages)"

KathleenJH says, "The small group idea is good"

KathyKD says, "It is like anything in ed too much of one thing does not
               provide a balanced education."

TimothyP says, "I thik you need a mixture of both...f2f has its place,
                but this can be usefull as well"

AllisonD has connected.
JodiNA says, "i agree.  when i try to sleep I end up thinking about all
              the work I need to do, and what I am going to do to
              accomplish it."

DiaL says, "true"

KarenEd asks, "me too  I am really concerned about what happens when I
               am not around- if I set this up am I still responsible?"

LindaX likes balance as well

MistyM says, "v.h.s. is good for a lot of students who can't meet
              f2f--and others."

LindaX . o O ( Allison is on dial up i bet )
KimberlyAF says, "That's where I am, Tim!	"

AllisonD says, "My dial up at home is great, this is not"

LindaX says, "that's a great question karen."

KarenEd says, "I agree"

MaggieVa says, "i don't think that I would support virtual hs.  There is
                so much more to hs than learning adv algebra"

JimL [to LindaX]: "call waiting?"

AllisonD says, "no idea"

HeatherfS asks, "are there any working virtual hs right now?"

MistyM says, "yes."

LindaX says, "call waiting will drop you. also some ISPs are quick to
              give you the boot if you look dormant."

KathyKD says, "hmm.  I just remembered I used a virtual school as a
               writing prompt before ISATs this year."

MistyM says, "Illinois virtual high school."

TonyaD says, "we have a school in our area that used the Virtual HS due
              to teacher shortage"

KimberlyAF says, "Virtual hs would be great for homebound students.	"

LindaX says, "heather, yes, many"

KarenEd asks, "so much more can be covered- and each at their own pace
               perhaps?"

JodiNA says, "I have my cell phone on"

MistyM says, "true, kim"

MaggieVa says, "DSL= no lost connection"

HeatherfS asks, "does anyone know the outcomes of such a program yet?"

TonyaD exclaims, "DSL rocks!"

HeatherfS asks, "is there any data supporting how well they work?"

LindaX says, "oh, hey, i was going to multitask and pull up google and
              find some virt h.s. sites for you and i remembered i wanted
              to show you something very very cool"

AllisonD says, "i'm not at home--this is someone else's place and they
                don't have call waiting"

EliseJ asks, "What's DSL?"

MaggieVa exclaims, "DSL club!"

TonyaD says, "some parents from the VHS were unhappy-did feel it would
              prepare them for colleg"

BrianW says, "I get a pretty good dial up connection free from school."

MistyM says, "digital satellite"

AllisonD says, "i really like my service"

MaggieVa says, "I would like to see a virtual HS website"

LindaX taunts, "wanna see?"

TonyaD says, "sorry did not"

HeatherfS says, "me too"

AllisonD says, "and it's free"

JimL says, "sure."

MistyM says, "check out www.ivhs.org"

JimL [to LindaX]: "going to project a site?"

KathyKD has lost her link.
HeatherfS asks, "do these students have any f2f at any time?"

KimberlyAF says, "Is Virtual hs anything like homeschooling?	"

EliseJ asks, "Is the whole 4 years a VHS?"

LindaX says, "okay, now i'll project a sweb site. it's the next
              iteration of web browser, imho. put in "virtual high
              school" in quotation marks in the blank and then clilck on
              ok"

LindaX projects the URL:
  http://www.kartoo.com
  
JohnKit says, "We will likely be what our father was, regardless of the
               educational opportunities."

LindaX asks, "is this not awesome?"

TonyaD says, "cool Linda"

MaggieVa asks, "how different is VHS than this U of I thing?"

LindaX says, "as you move your cursor over the round buttons you see a
              site summary"

EliseJ says, "Looks neat, LInda"

LindaX says, "the other words are descriptors"

BrianW says, "amazing web sit and resources"

KarenEd exclaims, "I like kartoo!"

LindaX says, "you can add (+) or take away (-) a descriptor"

JohnKe says, "very cool"

AllisonD says, "sorry-we're opening presents-back in five"

KimberlyAF says, "Having trouble - over 30, ya know!	"

LindaX says, "the web, as God intended it... LINKED ... MAPPED"

JimL says, "You can look at the Illinois Virtual High School to get some
            of the answers to your questions."

VanessaU says, "I like Kartoo too"

LindaX says, "i think it's a bunch of canadians"

LindaX says, "it appeared about three weeks ago. it got flooded and went
              down for a few days while they rushed some servers online."

LindaX says, "notice there's another page of maps"

JimL says, "http://ivhs.k12.il.us/"

LindaX says, "that site is a big button on page two map"

KathyKD has connected.
KathyKD leaves for the 5th.
KathyKD's personal recorder (recording) leaves for the 5th.

LindaX says, "i think the little dude looks like the Supreme Kai on
              DragonBall Z"

HeatherfS says, "yeah kinda"

KathyKD has arrived.
KathyKD's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.

LindaX grins at Heather

KathyKD says, "daughter found the power button on cpu"

TimothyP says, "nice DragonBall Z reference"

MistyM says, "oops:-)"

JimL asks, "Okay, we're coming down to the last 10 minutes.  Any other
            issues people want to raise?"

HeatherfS asks, "so are these VHS used in place of a traditional school
                 day or can they be used as a head start kind of thing?"

MistyM says, "both"

LindaX says, "it varies."

KarenEd says, "I don't mean to be rude- but I have to go- I had fun!:)
               talk to all of you soon."

LindaX says, "some are A.P. classes mostly"

HeatherfS says, "i like the idea of using at a head start"

TonyaD says, "they were at the school with the teacher shortage"

KarenEd says, "Thanks Linda"

JimL says, "cu later Karen."

MistyM exclaims, "bye, Karen!"

KathyKD asks, "how do you varify it is the kid who is doing the work?"

LindaX says, "l8r"

LindaX says, "how do you verify it in f2f"

HeatherfS says, "same way as us I would think"

KathleenJH asks, "Can any student take the AP classes?"

MaggieVa says, "it looks like you have to pay for these classes, whereas
                regular hs is mostly free for the students"

LindaX says, "when the report comes in , how do you know mom didn't do
              most of it"

TonyaD says, "handwriting analysis--my second career"

MistyM says, "true."

JimL asks, "Anyone else have intersting questions for Linda?"

LindaX lol

BrianW says, "I intend on bringing my AP students here in the fall."

HeatherfS says, "yes any student can sign up for AP as long as the
                 school offers it"

LindaX says, "voice."

HeatherfS says, "I teach AP"

LindaX says, "you have a sense of the kid and what s/he can do"

LindaX asks, "do you know about APEX?"

KathyKD says, "you at least have some knowledge from face to face
               assessment."

JimL asks, "what's APEX?"

EliseJ says, "I ;think you would have to have a bit of both for the
              assessment to be fair."

MistyM says, "See course descriptions."

JodiNA says, "i agree Kathy.  I can head facial expressions"

LindaX says, "they offer online AP classes"

KarenEd finds her way out.

JodiNA says, "read tham not head"

HeatherfS asks, "in how many areas linda?"

JodiNA says, "them"

MistyM says, "I was wondering, Jodi. :-)"

JimL says, "I though you meant heed, Jodi."

LindaX projects the URL:
  http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3851_551981

TimothyP says, "but that is what we are all used too...f2f is a comfort
                zone for us.  It is difficult to imagine school being
                totally virtual because we have never experienced it"

JodiNA says, "told you i am getting used to  my first grade spelling."

LindaX says, "yeah."

MistyM says, "It's actually really cool teaching, developing courses for
              IVHS."

MistyM says, "You get to know the students as well as f2f"

LindaX says, "gee, sorry that's such a slow load. it's a st ory about
              APEX developing a virtual h.s. for a school district"

TonyaD asks, "how much time did it take you Misty?"

MistyM says, "It varies."

TimothyP says, "I think in some cases you could know students better on
                some levels"

MistyM says, "Sometimes lots of time in a day, sometimes a couple of
              minutes"

JimL asks, "Which courses did you develop, Misty?"

TonyaD says, "Did they tell you to work with specific materials"

MistyM says, "English IA"

JodiNA says, "i guess we are getting to know each other and we aren't
              f2f"

MistyM says, "I taught American Lit 1A"

TonyaD asks, "did you grade the asssignments too?"

MistyM says, "I teach Amer. Lit and English I now."

HeatherfS says, "it helped me seeing most of you first so I could
                 connect a name with a face though"

KathleenJH says, "Sounds interesting Misty. Very cool."

TimothyP says, "that is true heather"

MistyM says, "I have to grade some assignments. The computer grades
              some."

EliseJ says, "I think we made a lot of progress that first weekend, too"

TonyaD says, "cool"

MistyM says, "Definitely."

JodiNA says, "i agree"

LindaX says, "here, this is a better link. use it if you want:
              http://www.apexlearning.com/"

AllisonD says, "I like this for professional development.  My school is
                the only one in the district, and only one teacher per
                grade..."

JimL asks, "Any last questions for Linda?"

KathyKD asks, "It makes me wonder about the technological divide again. 
               what about those who don't have the opportunity at a
               virtual school because of finances?"

JodiNA asks, "where are the towels?"

LindaX hands around the fluffy white towels

AllisonD says, "And they always complain no one to talk to"

MistyM says, "I have very poor students taking classes."

MistyM says, "The school is responsible for paying for them."

TimothyP says, "just run around really fast and air dry Jodi"

LindaX lol

MistyM -)

KathleenJH asks, "What is the cost?"

TonyaD says, "in this area, if the school can't offer the course and
              it's required then the district pays it"

KathyKD says, "oh. sounds good then."

JodiNA says, "OK"

LindaX says, "on the net, no  one sees the cellulite"

MistyM says, "Expensive right now, but will get cheaper."

DiaL says, "Ooh, nice and soft. Much better thatn my towels"

EliseJ exclaims, "I like it!"

MistyM says, "I'm ready to dry off too."

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JimL holds up a BIG sign: | Many thanks, LINDA! |
                          |_____________________|
                          
KimberlyAF says, "Linda, you must be over 30 like me!`	"

AllisonD exclaims, "I'll really have to take advantage of the log!"

TonyaD exclaims, "thank you Linda!"

EliseJ exclaims, "Thanks, Linda!"

LindaX says, "my pleasure. a good group Jim"

KimberlyAF says, "Thanks so much, Linda!	"

JodiNA says, "thanks linda"

VanessaU says, "Thank you"

MistyM says, "Thanks, Linda."

AllisonD says, "Thank you"

TimothyP says, "thanks Linda"

KathyKD says, "Time to put our baby in her mini hot tub.  bye all. 
               thanks Linda"

DiaL says, "Thanks Linda"

HeatherfS says, "thanks Linda"

JohnKit says, "later"

BrianW says, "THanks Linda"

MaggieVa exclaims, "thanks!"

KathleenJH says, "Thanks"

LindaX says, "visit us anytime. If you see me in a class, you are
              welcome to join in"

LindaX waves

MistyM says, "Bye."

TonyaD waves

LindaX says, "i'll leave you to close it all up Jim"

JimL says, "I'll stick around for optional office hour here."

KathleenJH has disconnected.

LindaX takes a towel and leaves

JimL says, "Thanks for the invite."

LindaX goes home.

AllisonD eats cake

TonyaD asks, "Jim how can I refresh the screen and not get kicked out?"

JimL says, "Thanks everyone - a bit fast and furious but interesting."

MistyM says, "Jim, I'll be signing off shortly too."

JohnKit arrives from nowhere.
JohnKit's personal recorder follows JohnKit to here.
MerrillC has disconnected.

HeatherfS exclaims, "this was way cooler than I thought it was going to
                     be!"

JimL says, "I'll post the transcript as soon as the office hour is over."

AllisonD says, "Bye everyone :)"

EliseJ exclaims, "I think I will have to check the log tomorrow.  This
                  was fast!"

AllisonD has disconnected.

MistyM says, "I'll be out of town for a few days at an IVHS conference,
              but I'll try to keep up on this stuff."

JodiNA says, "it was too fast."

TonyaD exclaims, "have fun Misty!"

EliseJ says, "have a good evening - On to a BBall game!  bye"

KimberlyAF says, "Bye, everyone!  	"

MistyM exclaims, "THanks!"

KathyKD has disconnected.

HeatherfS exclaims, "Bye everyone!!!"

EliseJ has disconnected.

JimL says, "save your question and ask again Tonya when people who are
            leaving are gone."

KimberlyAF has disconnected.

TonyaD says, "ok"

HeatherfS has disconnected.

TimothyP says, "okay folks...I'll talk at ya'll later"

TonyaD says, "bye Tim"

MaggieVa says, "bye, whoever is left..jim.."

TonyaD says, "bye Maggie"

TimothyP has disconnected.

MaggieVa exclaims, "bye tonya!"

MistyM says, "Bye."

MistyM has disconnected.
JohnKe finds his way out.
MaggieVa finds her way out.
JohnKit has lost his link.
JohnKe has arrived.
JohnKe's personal recorder (recording) has arrived.
JohnKe finds his way out.

JohnKit has connected.

BrianW exclaims, "Looks like everyone is abandoning ship!"