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(7:09 PM) tdieken has entered the room.

jlevinjal (7:09 PM): Hi Tonya.

tdieken (7:09 PM):   Hello

jlevinjal (7:09 PM): How's it going?

tdieken (7:10 PM):   Pretty good.  I have been trying to "listen" to the music links and if it's in Quick time I can't hear it--realplayer works

tdieken (7:10 PM):   any suggestions?  Volume is up

jlevinjal (7:10 PM): You're using windows?  which version?

tdieken (7:10 PM):   XP

tdieken (7:11 PM):   when QT comes up it asks about re-linking features and I say yes

tdieken (7:11 PM):   sometimes it works, others not

jlevinjal (7:11 PM): Hmm, I don't know much about XP.  Contact cter-tech folks.  You might want to try reinstalling QT.

tdieken (7:12 PM):   that is the one I had soooo much trouble with...I thought we had it

tdieken (7:12 PM):  

jlevinjal (7:12 PM): Before you do that, send email to CTER-TECH to see if they have any suggestions

tdieken (7:12 PM):   okay thanks!

jlevinjal (7:12 PM): Want me to try it?

jlevinjal (7:13 PM): What's the URL?

tdieken (7:13 PM):   I was trying Kathy's (Hickey) just now

jlevinjal (7:13 PM): The pioneer song?

tdieken (7:13 PM):   yes

jlevinjal (7:13 PM): That worked for me.

tdieken (7:13 PM):   that what I saw so I figured it's on my end

jlevinjal (7:14 PM): Ok, send email to CTER-TECH - Tony or Pedro might have some suggestions.

tdieken (7:14 PM):   Okay--did Jeff R. PPT have sound?

jlevinjal (7:14 PM): no, so I asked him to redo that assignment.

jlevinjal (7:14 PM):

tdieken (7:14 PM):   ok--I thought maybe I had bigger problems than QT

tdieken (7:15 PM):   I'll check with Tech

jlevinjal (7:15 PM): He was trying to argue that a PPT was "video" since it was a sequence of images.

tdieken (7:15 PM):   I had to navigate through it...it didn't run automatically

tdieken (7:15 PM):   but I thought we had to have video or audio

jlevinjal (7:16 PM): By that definition of video, every web site is "video" - he agreed that he'd redo that assignment.

tdieken (7:16 PM):   can I ask a new question?

jlevinjal (7:16 PM): sure, ga.

jlevinjal (7:17 PM): (ga= Go Ahead - not that I'm choking)

tdieken (7:17 PM):   On c-base, the next assignment says final project report, is this a paper or revisions to the major project website?  Or ...

jlevinjal (7:17 PM):

tdieken (7:17 PM):   sorry slow typer

tdieken (7:17 PM):   or just anal about typos

jlevinjal (7:18 PM): Yes, I saw today that I wasn't real clear on the next to the last vs the final project site (which most people actually linked to their report).  So just put the same URL for your project report site into that posting.

jlevinjal (7:19 PM): The main function of that is that you're claiming that your report and project are done.

tdieken (7:19 PM):   so I should write a report about the creation, etc of project and then post to signal completion?

tdieken (7:20 PM):   sorry, had to be mom for a sec

jlevinjal (7:20 PM): Don't you already have a project report site?

tdieken (7:21 PM):   I don't think I called it "report", but I made a major project site that linked to my project

tdieken (7:21 PM):   with explanations

jlevinjal (7:21 PM): Okay, isn't http://students.ed.uiuc.edu/dieken/majprojwebsite.html your major project report site?

jlevinjal (7:22 PM): and http://students.ed.uiuc.edu/dieken/projweb/index.htm your major project site?

tdieken (7:22 PM):   hmmm.... those are mine

jlevinjal (7:22 PM): I guess its just a question of what name you give those.

tdieken (7:23 PM):   I'm a math teacher paranoid about the word report...

tdieken (7:23 PM):   I invision pages and pages of text

tdieken (7:23 PM):   typo

jlevinjal (7:23 PM): not a problem.

jlevinjal (7:24 PM): I don't think we need pages and pages - just enough so we understand what you did.

jlevinjal (7:24 PM): and why

tdieken (7:25 PM):   okay. 

jlevinjal (7:25 PM): If you want to augment your http://students.ed.uiuc.edu/dieken/majprojwebsite.html site, I suggest you add a section at the end that says a bit about how you'll evaluate how effective your tutorial is.

tdieken (7:25 PM):   okay

jlevinjal (7:25 PM): Don't need much more than that.

tdieken (7:26 PM):   I'll check back tomorrow to "hear" the office hours

tdieken (7:26 PM):   thanks for the input and I'll get in touch with Tech

jlevinjal (7:26 PM): Take a look at the documentation before tomorrow's session, so you can get set up to hear.

tdieken (7:27 PM):   okay. have a good night!

jlevinjal (7:27 PM): CU tomorrow.

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(7:33 PM) mistymapes has entered the room.

jlevinjal (7:33 PM): Hi Misty.

jlevinjal (7:33 PM): How's it going?

mistymapes (7:33 PM):    Hi Jim. Is it just us?

jlevinjal (7:34 PM): Tonya was here earlier, but just left.

mistymapes (7:34 PM):    I've had a load of problems this week. They were finally resolved today.

jlevinjal (7:34 PM): Great that they're resolved

jlevinjal (7:34 PM): Did you log all the problems?

mistymapes (7:34 PM):    My server wouldn't recognize/open the uiuc.com...and they wouldn't believe it was their fault until today.

mistymapes (7:34 PM):    Yes. I logged it.

jlevinjal (7:35 PM): But they finally did?

mistymapes (7:35 PM):    Yes. They tried it on their computer and couldn't open it.

jlevinjal (7:35 PM): Let's hear it for the power of persistence.

jlevinjal (7:35 PM): firewall problem?

mistymapes (7:35 PM):    Then I told them that I opened it with a different local server at my g'pa's house. Ouch. They didn't like that.

mistymapes (7:35 PM):    I'm not sure what kind of problem it was.

jlevinjal (7:35 PM): As long as its solved

mistymapes (7:35 PM):    Yep.

jlevinjal (7:36 PM): Everything else going okay as well?

mistymapes (7:36 PM):    I think so.

mistymapes (7:36 PM):    A question...

jlevinjal (7:36 PM): Sure, GA

jlevinjal (7:36 PM): (GA = Go Ahead)

mistymapes (7:37 PM):    When we post the webboard url for the white papers, are we supposed to post the one with the whole big white papers revision or my own?

mistymapes (7:37 PM):    I know that was a confusing questions.

mistymapes (7:37 PM):    I revised 5 of 15 sections of computer crimes. Brian is posting the whole thing..

jlevinjal (7:37 PM): Just post your own Webboard posting in C-Base

mistymapes (7:37 PM):    ok.

mistymapes (7:37 PM):    I think that may be all I need.

jlevinjal (7:37 PM): What did you think of that assignment?

mistymapes (7:38 PM):    It was a good one.

mistymapes (7:38 PM):    I was frustrated because of tech difficulties...

jlevinjal (7:38 PM): Good to hear.  Some of the groups got a bit carried away and put much time and effort into it.

mistymapes (7:38 PM):    but I learned a lot about computer crimes...an important issue.

jlevinjal (7:38 PM): Good to hear - yes, increasingly important.

mistymapes (7:39 PM):    Yeah, I tend to be one of those. My tech difficulties caused some difficulty in the time issue, but it probably was good for me.

jlevinjal (7:39 PM): We're going to try some digitized voice in tomorrow's office hour.

jlevinjal (7:39 PM): If you're interested, feel free to stop by.

mistymapes (7:39 PM):    I'll try to be there. I'd like to hear it.

mistymapes (7:40 PM):    I feel like I've learned enough this semester to have already earned my degree.

jlevinjal (7:40 PM): 3-4pm.  look at the docuementation beforehand so you can get your sound set up.

mistymapes (7:40 PM):    No problem...I hope.

jlevinjal (7:40 PM): Yes, people seem to learning a lot

jlevinjal (7:41 PM): We have a quote from one CTER1 student - "I learned more this summer than in my four years as an undergraduate"

jlevinjal (7:41 PM): or something like that.

mistymapes (7:41 PM):    It's the truth!

mistymapes (7:41 PM):    My husband is in school right now too, and he just reminded me that he needs the computer for his own online conference in about 15 minutes.

jlevinjal (7:42 PM): ok, hope to see you tomorrow.

mistymapes (7:42 PM):    We're just a "techie" couple! Enjoyed the short chat. I'll try to be back tomorrow afternoon!!

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ShrArt1:  jim are you there?

jlevinjal: Hi.  Who's this?

ShrArt1:  It's Heather

jlevinjal: Hi Heather - how's it going?

ShrArt1:  I've been trying to get into this for a while.  Do we have a special place to go to speak with the class on saturday?

jlevinjal: Yes, the EdPsy 387 AIM chat room.  Want to try to go there now?  I'm there also.  Go to the class page, click on Conferencing, then click on EdPsy 387 AIM room

ShrArt1:  ok i'm going to try that now.

jlevinjal: Ok, I'll be there waiting for you.

ShrArt1:  Jim I dont see it in the conferencing section.  I see the AOL icon but not sure where the EdPsy room icon is?

jlevinjal: Let me bring up that page - wait a sec.

jlevinjal: Ok, see where it says "Join my Chat Room"

jlevinjal: Click on that.

ShrArt1:  yeah

ShrArt1:  I keep trying its not doing anything

jlevinjal: Ok, sometimes you have to log out of AIM, then start up again and then it will work.

jlevinjal: Give that a try.

ShrArt1:  ok here goes wish me luck

ShrArt1:  jim still not working

jlevinjal: Ok, send a note to  cter-tech   and see if they have any other suggestions.  What version of AIM are you using?

jlevinjal: What happens when you click on "Join my Chat Room"?   Nothing?

ShrArt1:  it send up a bar that says something about an attempt to locate a URL happened while I was offline.  and then tells me to log on and try again.

jlevinjal: Ok, I know that's been happening to some folks, but I don't know what the resolution is.  Email cter-tech  and see if they have a solution.

ShrArt1:  ok I'll try to reach you again tomorrow on AIM

ShrArt1:  thanks jim

jlevinjal: okay, that will be tomorrow afternoon.  We'll be trying out some audio software also (CTER Radio).

ShrArt1:  ok, see you then

jlevinjal: 3-4pm CDT

jlevinjal: cu tomorrow