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Baumer7 (5:07 PM): hi Jim

jlevinjal (5:07 PM): Hi Jodi. How's it going?

Baumer7 (5:07 PM): I guess i have a couple questions about my final project

jlevinjal (5:08 PM): Sure, go ahead.

Baumer7 (5:08 PM): The first is what information due you need for the web site?

Baumer7 (5:09 PM): it is still in question, and I don't know what to add to it to make it right.

jlevinjal (5:09 PM): Isn't some of that on the syllabus?

Baumer7 (5:09 PM): yeah, i posted what i wthought was right, but it was accepted.

jlevinjal (5:10 PM): Okay, I've just looked at that, and I think I'm unclear about your project. Maybe if you say a bit more about what you have planned, that would help.

jlevinjal (5:12 PM): I know you found the www.tooter4kids.com site that you want to use.

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jlevinjal (5:13 PM): Hello again.

Baumer7 (5:14 PM): HI! I am back. i was going to teach outside the computer room about charcater education, so when they got upstairs to the lab, they could view the site and then take the quiz.

Baumer7 (5:14 PM): what more do i need to add to the project?

jlevinjal (5:15 PM): Okay, it would probably be useful for you to create a page that "frames" the lessons you have planned.

Baumer7 (5:15 PM): I have a problem with that... my book is at school, and I don't know when i can get in sunce they are closed in jUly

jlevinjal (5:15 PM): That explain what they're going to see, and then link to the part of the www.tooter4kids.com site and then tell them what to do while they're there and when they come back?

jlevinjal (5:15 PM): Which book?

Baumer7 (5:16 PM): It is a workbook and the title is charcater education. I can go to Sattely's tomorrow, and look for others.

Baumer7 (5:17 PM): not spelled that way.

jlevinjal (5:17 PM): How about just working out one plausible lesson, and create a web page to support that? Then, when you get the workbook, you can modify it to make it fit.

jlevinjal (5:17 PM): What's Sattely's?

Baumer7 (5:17 PM): so make a lesson plan as a web page?

Baumer7 (5:17 PM): sattely's has teacher books

Baumer7 (5:18 PM): i think i misspelled it

jlevinjal (5:18 PM): I see that part of that page is "101 THings Friends Do" - how would you want your students to use that part of the site? (or pick any other part if that's not one you'd use).

Baumer7 (5:19 PM): OK. That page would come before my project page

jlevinjal (5:19 PM): Well, you'll have a project page, and you'll have a project report page. Is that what you mean?

Baumer7 (5:19 PM): no I have the project page that explains it, then a link to the lesson followed by teh web site followed by teh quiz?

Baumer7 (5:20 PM): I have the one named project, then the lesson, then the web site, then the quiz.

jlevinjal (5:20 PM): Well, I see your project page as a "launching" page for your students, and then a place to come back to for your quiz or whatever.

jlevinjal (5:20 PM): Okay, you can have several pages on your "project site" - that's fine.

jlevinjal (5:21 PM): But you'll have to tell your students how to come back to your project site.

Baumer7 (5:21 PM): now about the quiz.... I need to make a NO and YES page so when they click an answer it will tell them if they were right?

jlevinjal (5:21 PM): That's one way to do it - requires making a lot of pages but they're all pretty much the same, so making copies is pretty easy.

jlevinjal (5:22 PM): That's a good place to start - then you can get more sophisticated later.

Baumer7 (5:22 PM): the project page i turned in, do i need for the students to see? I have one named Character that explains the same things except in a student friendly way

jlevinjal (5:22 PM): You'll need a unique "yes" page and "no" page for each question in the quiz.

Baumer7 (5:23 PM): if i have 4 answers, i have can have a link on answer "a" and then a link on answer"b", and so on?

jlevinjal (5:23 PM): The one called "project" is what I'm referring to as your project report, which your students may never see - it is for me and the rest of the CTER5 folks.

jlevinjal (5:24 PM): Yes, found unique pages - kind of a lot of pages, but it is simple to do.

jlevinjal (5:24 PM): Yes, four unique pages, I mean.

Baumer7 (5:24 PM): I need to go back to the project page, and explain a lesson I am going to do about one of the links beforehand?

jlevinjal (5:25 PM): I wouldn't generate a lot of quiz questions until you see how this works.

Baumer7 (5:25 PM): i just have 10 questions.

jlevinjal (5:25 PM): The project report tells us what you've done and why. The project starting page would be the one that your students see.

Baumer7 (5:26 PM): that one i named character

jlevinjal (5:26 PM): On that page, you would explain (in their language) what they're to do, provide the link to a part of the other site, then provide a link to the quiz.

jlevinjal (5:26 PM): You might want to draw a map of all these files and draw between them the links.

Baumer7 (5:26 PM): do i need to put the lesson in my project page. I was thinking that was what i was going to do,

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Baumer7 (5:27 PM): or just say that i will be doing a lesson on this beforehand to get them started

jlevinjal (5:27 PM): Hi Elise.

mrsjohn2308 (5:27 PM): Hi Jodi and Jim.

Baumer7 (5:28 PM): Hi elise

mrsjohn2308 (5:28 PM): Thanks for the input on my project

jlevinjal (5:28 PM): Sketch out on a piece of paper the files and their links, Jodi, then lets talk again.

Baumer7 (5:28 PM): what do you mean draw a map?

Baumer7 (5:29 PM): just on paper. Ok I will go get busy. Thanks.

jlevinjal (5:29 PM): Take a piece of paper, draw a rectangle for your first page and write inside the name, draw rectanges for all those that you'll create linked from that page, etc.

Baumer7 (5:30 PM): Gotcha! thanks.

jlevinjal (5:30 PM): That's call a site map, by the way.

Baumer7 (5:30 PM): i can do that.

mrsjohn2308 (5:31 PM): Jeff and I started on the white paper, but don't know what to do about Mary. Has she been working on other projects for class, Jim? She has not answered emails, etc. for a week.

jlevinjal (5:31 PM): Hmm, yes, I haven't seen c-base entries from her for a while.

mrsjohn2308 (5:32 PM): Well, we divided the paper in thirds and left a third for her. What if she doesn't show up by next week?

jlevinjal (5:32 PM): Well, just divide things up three ways, and you two can work on your parts. If Mary gets going later, great, if not, that that's the way it goes.

jlevinjal (5:32 PM): If she doesn't do anything, then you just won't have any changes to make of that 1/3 of the paper.

mrsjohn2308 (5:32 PM): That's what we thought. Though we wondered if anything was wrong

jlevinjal (5:33 PM): I'll email her/phone her to see what's up.

mrsjohn2308 (5:33 PM): Okay, thanks - just wanted to ask that question - got another game tonite. CU later

jlevinjal (5:34 PM): okay, good that you checked - CU later.

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jlevinjal (5:34 PM): How's your group working out, Jodi?

jlevinjal (5:34 PM): Did you folks ever hear from Pat Grenda?

Baumer7 (5:37 PM): Sorry, I was looking at the web site. Kim tried emialing him, but it got sent back to her.

jlevinjal (5:38 PM): Hmm, that's not a good sign. Which email address did she use?

Baumer7 (5:38 PM): I did what you said last night in the chat, and I have my white paper as saved as, so i cna make corrections.

jlevinjal (5:38 PM): Again, just divide the paper up 4 ways, and if he doesn't do his part, then that's unfortunate.

Baumer7 (5:38 PM): I think she used teh one in the web board. I eamiled tim, but haven't heard from him. I think kim has

Baumer7 (5:39 PM): he has the first part because it was the shortest part.

jlevinjal (5:39 PM): Okay, don't let anyone hold you folks up on this group project.

Baumer7 (5:40 PM): should we do his part if we don't hear from him?

jlevinjal (5:40 PM): no, just do your parts, and combine all those parts that are done on time.

Baumer7 (5:40 PM): can you explain one moe time, what is the best way to combine them?

jlevinjal (5:41 PM): I suggest that one of the group "download" the file(s), and be the keeper of the "master" copy.

jlevinjal (5:41 PM): THen the other folks send changes to make, and the "keeper of the master file" makes the changes.

Baumer7 (5:42 PM): i have two sections. on the other disabilities part none of teh bibliographies work. I already have the whole paper downloaded

jlevinjal (5:42 PM): Then when all changes are make, the "keeper" uploads the revised copy.

jlevinjal (5:42 PM): For your project, if there are multiple files, that things might be even simplier.

Baumer7 (5:43 PM): one part on accessibility was from1997 and william clinton, so I am going to change it to President Bush since he had a part on it.

jlevinjal (5:43 PM): if your group can divide up the separate files, then each person can work on their own.]

Baumer7 (5:43 PM): you mean don't worry baout combining it?

Baumer7 (5:43 PM): about

jlevinjal (5:43 PM): Sure, that's fine - minor changes are great. Just don't put too much time/effort into this - instead put the major effort into your major proejct.

jlevinjal (5:44 PM): Well, it will need to be combined eventually, but it is easier if each person in the group is revising a different file.

Baumer7 (5:44 PM): my lesson is going to be in class on how to be a good friend.

jlevinjal (5:45 PM): that sounds good.

Baumer7 (5:45 PM): they cna break up into groups in the classroom to discuss it. How much of that lesson do you want me to put in the project?

jlevinjal (5:46 PM): Enough that we can see how it will work - focus so that we can see the whole process for one part - you can expand later after this class but before the school year starts.

Baumer7 (5:48 PM): i was going to use chart paper and discuss as a whole class, and then they can break up into groups to draw a picture. i cna keep those posted until they finish the project.

jlevinjal (5:49 PM): okay, you can explain that in your project report.

Baumer7 (5:50 PM): they can update or redo their pictures after they finish the computer project. Super. I guess I have a lot of work to do! maybe third time will be teh charm. Just got to my posting and hit edit?

Baumer7 (5:50 PM): no, it will update once i save it in my web folder

jlevinjal (5:50 PM): Yep, that will work. And then go to C-Base and just hit Submit there (since the URL will be the same)

jlevinjal (5:50 PM): Make sure you keep the same file names.

Baumer7 (5:51 PM): Ok. thanks. I am off to work!

jlevinjal (5:51 PM): Great, I'll look forwading to see your work. CU later.

Baumer7 (5:51 PM): bye

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jlevinjal (5:51 PM): forward, that is.