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jlevinjal: Welcome. is this dia?

roxydirector: yeah

roxydirector: I can't seem to follow the directions for the radio

jlevinjal: Okay, are you set up with Realplayer or Winamp?

roxydirector: Realplayer

jlevinjal: Did you try to open the URL specified in the instructions?

roxydirector: I opened real player, then it says to click on file.

roxydirector: but there is not button marked file.

jlevinjal: Hmm, how about up in a menu?

roxydirector: I tried putting that url in the location bar but I get an error message.

jlevinjal: See if there's an Open choice in the menu?

roxydirector: There's open file and open location

jlevinjal: Try open file.

jlevinjal: Then type in http://cterdev.ed.uiuc.edu:8000

roxydirector: There's no place to type. There are only choices to click on

jlevinjal: Ok, try open location

roxydirector: It's doing something.

jlevinjal: OK. You're using a Mac, right? Dialup?

roxydirector: It had added an * infront of the url. I erased that and now it's loading something.

roxydirector: Mac. Dial up

jlevinjal: ok. while we're waiting, any questions or issues?

roxydirector: No, I just wanted to try the radio connection.

jlevinjal: (I always tell people, "Bring a good book to read when working on a computer." because there are always times when you have to wait.

roxydirector: Ain't it the truth!:-)

jlevinjal: Note that there will be about a 60 second delay between when I speak and when you'll hear me.

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jlevinjal: Welcome TOnya.

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jlevinjal: Hi Misty

tdieken: Hello

mistymapes: Hi!

jlevinjal: Tonya and Misty, are you set up on CTER Radio?

roxydirector: The numbers are still spinning at the bottom and it says live but I don't hear anything yet.

mistymapes: I think so.

tdieken: Yes I think so

mistymapes: It's buffering

jlevinjal: Ok, I guess that's my cue to start talking. :-)

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jlevinjal: Hi Jodi.

mistymapes: I don't hear anything yet. Should I?

roxydirector: Me either.

Baumer7: Hi! I think I am having trouble with setting up the hearing part.

jlevinjal: There is about a 60 sec delay between when I talk and when youhear.

jlevinjal: We may be having technical difficulties with the CTER radio - take heart that it is not just you folks.

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jlevinjal: Is this Brian?

mistymapes: Good. I thought I was going deaf. :-)

NairbNt: Yes its Brian

Baumer7: I went to my real player and put in the http, and all it did was start to play music.

jlevinjal: No, just technical difficulties.

jlevinjal: Well, Pedro was playing music earlier.

Baumer7: Maybe that was what I was hearing.

mistymapes: Jim, may I ask a semi-unrelated question?

jlevinjal: Sure, go ahead Misty.

mistymapes: When I want add content to my online course that I developed, how can I get permission to use literature that is still copyrighted/owned?

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a17n17drew: Hello?

jlevinjal: Hi Alli.

mistymapes: Hi Alli!

a17n17drew: Hi

Baumer7: Hi Alli

jlevinjal: If you just link, you don't need permission.

roxydirector: Hi Alli

a17n17drew: I still can't get in the regualr way

mistymapes: But some literature isn't available online right now. If I want to scan it in or type in the text....

mistymapes: Of Mice and Men, for example

jlevinjal: Okay, you're get into the wonderful world of "fair use"

mistymapes: yeah, a term I've heard a lot lately.

jlevinjal: Have you looked at the Copyright White Paper?

a17n17drew: DON'T!

mistymapes: yes. I'm just a little scared about copyright issues.

jlevinjal: Why not?O:-)

a17n17drew: I have been having such major issues with those links

a17n17drew: I swear they change!

mistymapes: I hear that!

jlevinjal: Now it looks like it is recording here - do you hear me?

roxydirector: Not yet.

NairbNt: Are we supposed to be hearing something?

Baumer7: Nope

mistymapes: not yet.

tdieken: Nope

a17n17drew: I was in tears an hour ago, everything moves so slow it's hard to see if they are fixed

a17n17drew: I mean the links

tdieken: sound!

mistymapes: Remember to log it. :-\

jlevinjal: Why was it was so slow?

roxydirector: sound

mistymapes: I'm hearing it!

jlevinjal: Okay, finally sound.

tdieken: oops gone

NairbNt: can't hear anything

a17n17drew: I can't trash anything quickly

tdieken: I hear

mistymapes: yes.

Baumer7: still can't hear

roxydirector: Yeah!!!

Baumer7: i even cleane dmy ears this morning

mistymapes: I hear, I hear!

roxydirector: I hear

tdieken: Now we know what Jim sounds like!:-)

jlevinjal: But you still can't hear, Jodi?

Baumer7: Nope

roxydirector: Without a cold

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NairbNt: Can't hear either

jlevinjal: Did you follow the directions of how to set up RealPlayer or WinAmp?

Baumer7: I typed in the http and it wouldn't go from there.

mistymapes: Is there a party going on over there?

jlevinjal: What kind of party? (and where is "there"?):-)

roxydirector: Will it be the same address each time we use this?

Baumer7: Are you typing?

mistymapes: You, Jim. You're not the only one in the room. Sparks our curiosity!

Baumer7: I hear you!

Baumer7: I got ot now!!!!

willging99: great Jodi!

jlevinjal: How about Brian and Alli?

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jlevinjal: Is this Heather?

ShrArt1: yes

mistymapes: Hi Heather!

Baumer7: are we allowed to talk back, or os this one way?

jlevinjal: All right, good that you got in.

ShrArt1: Hi misty

jlevinjal: AUdio is one way, typeing is two way.

Baumer7: OK.

jlevinjal: At least right now - someday we'll have multipoint audio and even video.

NairbNt: I have sound now.

mistymapes: I liked the interactive paper a lot!

ShrArt1: I have sound too

jlevinjal: Brian - sound?

NairbNt: I can hear you now Jim

a17n17drew: Sorry, I didn't look at the directions--I'm doing two things at once

ShrArt1: its me heather shore

jlevinjal: Pedro, can you help alli.

mistymapes: Heather, he's about 60 seconds behind on our sound.

mistymapes: Or rather, we're 60 seconds behind him.

ShrArt1: oh

NairbNt: I do

jlevinjal: I'm in a different time minute zone.

mistymapes: Jim, do you have the winamp up too? Are you hearing the 60-second delay of yourself as well?

jlevinjal: Yes, and its very confusing.

Baumer7: Will you go in ABC order?

jlevinjal: I'll do all the AIMs first, then Webboard, and then TAPPED IN.

mistymapes: I think he's planning on starting in one room and then moving to the next. ??

Baumer7: But people presenting in the first room any certain order

ShrArt1: Jim is there anyway we can plead and go first or at least in the beginning. I have my first professional art show that morning and I have to leave my booth to do this presentation.

jlevinjal: Any suggestions for an order? If you have a preference let me know.

Baumer7: I hate having my last name begin with an A and going first.

NairbNt: I like last name W

jlevinjal: Okay, you can go last Jodi (of those in your chat space)

jlevinjal: :-)

Baumer7: Brian, you can go first

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jlevinjal: Reverse alphabetical?

Baumer7: Thanks

ShrArt1: how long will this take?

mistymapes: My maiden name is Allen. That stunk. Now I'm Mapes...middle of the pack. much better.

NairbNt: =-O

mistymapes: Jim said until about 1:40

ShrArt1: yikes!!!

Baumer7: I thought 11:40

jlevinjal: Well, I'll take into your preferences.

mistymapes: that makes much more sense!

roxydirector: 12:40

jlevinjal: My calculation said 12:40, I think.

jlevinjal: That's if we stay on schedule.

Baumer7: That is fine

ShrArt1: do we have to stay for the whole time?

jlevinjal: i would like you to stay.

ShrArt1: ok

jlevinjal: Any other questions about the presentations?

jlevinjal: Or about anything else?

roxydirector: I don't care when I go

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tdieken: I have no preference

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ShrArt1: yes could you tell us if we are going to use AIM how to presave information for our presentation.

mistymapes: I was disconnected, but I'm back!

jlevinjal: Okay, those with preferences, send me email. And everyone should be sure to let me know which mechanism you're going to use.

jlevinjal: Welcome back

mistymapes: thanks.

jlevinjal: I would guess for both Webboard and AIM you can copy and paste, but I'd test that.

NairbNt: Misty, did you ask any questions about the White Papers yet?

jlevinjal: Then you can pre-type into a word or text document, then copy from that and paste into the chat mechanism.

ShrArt1: ok sounds easy

jlevinjal: Try it out before hand, however.

ShrArt1: alrighty

mistymapes: yes. I asked what url we should post into the c-base. he said to type our separate responses into it.

mistymapes: Do you have any other questions about it, Brian?

tdieken: John and I checked the "Typing" the hyperlink in AIM and it worked

jlevinjal: okay, the battery on mike just died, so there won't be any more audio.

tdieken: for presenting

NairbNt: Misty, When I put them all in my web folder they don't necessarily all link together.

jlevinjal: Good, just be aware that if you copy and paste too long a piece of text, it might not work.

jlevinjal: it will probably chop it off at some point.

ShrArt1: ok

roxydirector: I've got to go. Jacob ( my 4 year old) wants to play and I've been at the compuuter all day:-(

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roxydirector: BYE

jlevinjal: CU later Dia.

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ShrArt1: I too need to go. I will email you right now with my preference thanks Jim

jlevinjal: Oh, I have to shift my office hour tomorrow to earlier. I'll send email

jlevinjal: with the new time.

jlevinjal: Thanks Heather.

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NairbNt: I lost my sound

mistymapes: I'll be gone most of the weekend. I'm going camping, but I'll come back on Saturday for the presentations.

jlevinjal: Yes, the battery on my wireless mike died.

mistymapes: I'm having tech. difficulties onmy end too.

jlevinjal: Okay, have fun.

mistymapes: :-)Thanks

jlevinjal: If only you had a wireless laptop and cell modem, you could participate rom your campsite.

mistymapes: Yeah, that would be cool.

jlevinjal: Any other questions or issues anyone wants to raise?

jlevinjal: What did you think about the audio?

tdieken: my son whispered in my ear "can he hear us?";-)

Baumer7: I liked it, but it would be cool if it was two way, so I wouldn't have to misspell.

tdieken: good point Jodi!

jlevinjal: Yes, someday 2 way (or better yet, multiway)

mistymapes: I liked the audio. It was something different and fun!

jlevinjal: Good - you folks got up and running much faster than the CTER4 folks who tried it last week.

jlevinjal: 8-)

mistymapes: Yeah, well....

Baumer7: you must have fixed the problems they were having.

tdieken: My boss also called and asked what radio station I was listening to - he freaked when i said it was my professor!

jlevinjal: That's neat, Tonya.

mistymapes: LOL

jlevinjal: I'll have to report to Norma that her documentation helped a lot.

NairbNt: I have my computer tied into my stereo system so you were booming over the speakers here.

jlevinjal: Oops, I would have spoken more softly if I knew that.

mistymapes: So cool!

NairbNt: Nice bass

jlevinjal: We'll probably use this when we bring in guest speakers in the future.

mistymapes: That's a good use for it.

tdieken: Well, I need to find some answers for work...talk on Saturday!

Baumer7: I posted the trouble with trying to get it set up in troubleshooting, but it wasn't my computer's fault. Do I leave it?

jlevinjal: ok, see you then, Tonya.

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jlevinjal: Sure, leave it, Jodi.

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NairbNt: getting a lot of static

jlevinjal: Pedro says that we could have any one of you broadcast your voice, and the rest of us would help. So maybe by next year, you'll be able to speak your presentations.

Baumer7: I got out of real player since we weren't using it

mistymapes: That would be a neat project

mistymapes: there is a lot of static.

jlevinjal: Yes, I have that also. You can close your realplayer or winamp application now if you don't want to hear that.

mistymapes: My husband just came home, my child just woke up, and I'm going to do some house cleaning. See everyone later! ;-)

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jlevinjal: cu later, Misty

NairbNt: bye Misty

NairbNt: Jim, had a couple of questions for you

jlevinjal: sure, GA

NairbNt: First the White Papers.

jlevinjal: yes.

NairbNt: I have them all in my Web Folder but when I try to link them all it goes to the originals

jlevinjal: are you using relative links (ie. just the names of the files)?

NairbNt: should I go through all parts and change to the names of the files?

jlevinjal: Don't bother - I can do that later easily enough.

NairbNt: okay, question 2

jlevinjal: shoot

NairbNt: my major project, not sure what you wanted to see based on the comments from cbase

NairbNt: I was going to use that web site as a homepage

jlevinjal: Remind me of your major project - you're having your chemistry students create ppts?

NairbNt: yep

NairbNt: I had links installed, but they dont go anywhere yet

jlevinjal: Ok, then you need to create a separate major project report page, that says what you did, why, and how you're going to know if it works or not.

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NairbNt: okay, so I actually started the project itself instead of a report page?

jlevinjal: If I'm understanding you, that page with the links that don't go anywhere (but will, when your students create their ppts) is your major project page.

NairbNt: yes

jlevinjal: THen you need to create a major project report page, that talks about your major project (and links to that page), but which also talks about how, why, etc.

NairbNt: got you, I'll get that in tomorrow morning

jlevinjal: ok, I'll look forward to seeing that.

Baumer7: I have a question about mine

jlevinjal: sure, Jodi.

Baumer7: My final doesn't seem as big as everone else's

jlevinjal: I'm not going to evaluate based on size.

Baumer7: When we present (I guess I should have asked this earlier), you want us to have like the intro ready for everyone to read?

jlevinjal: Just do the best you can, and explain what you did, why, etc.

jlevinjal: Jodi.

Baumer7: OK

jlevinjal: I'm saying to assume that everyone has read your report, and just focus on the most important/interesting things you learned from your project.

Baumer7: I feel more comfortable doing web pages now

jlevinjal: You'll need to start out reminding us what you project is genrally about, but don't spend too much time explaining.

jlevinjal: Good to hear, Jodi.

Baumer7: Ok. I got it!

jlevinjal: Hopefully it will soon be as natural as creating a new word processor page.

Baumer7: We all now how well I type!

NairbNt: See you later Jim and thanks for your help.

jlevinjal: Someday we'll have reasonable voice recognitiion, and we'll never have to type.

jlevinjal: CU Brian.

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Baumer7: I will be ready to go on Saturday. If you are doing AIM first, I won't need to wait too long

jlevinjal: Sure, you could even go first if you wanted to :-)

jlevinjal: ;-)

Baumer7: I don't like going first. I have been all my life

Baumer7: I can go in the middle!

jlevinjal: Middle is good - send me email to remind me.

Baumer7: I don't think I have anymore questions right now. I will send you that email. Thanks

jlevinjal: ok, cu later Jodi.

Baumer7: BYE

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