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(5:59 PM) klindworthdavis has entered the room.

klindworthdavis (6:00 PM):     Hi Jim.

jlevinjal (6:00 PM): Hi Kathy, how's it going?

klindworthdavis (6:00 PM):     Going well.  How are you doing?

jlevinjal (6:00 PM): Fine, it's amazing to think that this course is just about over.

klindworthdavis (6:01 PM):     I know.  The time went very quickly. I ended up changing everything to text on my website.  I hope to get the graphics back into to it.

jlevinjal (6:01 PM): Everything all set for your presentation tomorrow?

jlevinjal (6:01 PM): What was the problem with the graphics?

(6:01 PM) MaggieISU99 has entered the room.

(6:01 PM) roxydirector has entered the room.

jlevinjal (6:01 PM): Hi Maggie, how's it going?

MaggieISU99 (6:02 PM):   hi guys!

jlevinjal (6:02 PM): Hi Dia.

roxydirector (6:02 PM):   Hi

jlevinjal (6:02 PM): All set for presentations tomorrow?

roxydirector (6:02 PM):   I have just 1 question but it's not about tomorrow

MaggieISU99 (6:02 PM):   is eveyone done with their project?

jlevinjal (6:02 PM): Pretty much so.  What's your question, Dia.

klindworthdavis (6:02 PM):     I went through and looked for the .gif and. jpg like you suggested and found none in hte html  format.  I know I had them there but I couldn't figure out why they weren't showing on hte page itself.

roxydirector (6:03 PM):   Why can't I get my picture to show up on webboard?

jlevinjal (6:03 PM): There's a problem with using IE on the Mac, where it puts in hard returns, Dia, which mess up URLs.

roxydirector (6:03 PM):   I've followed the directions on the resource page but it never works

jlevinjal (6:03 PM): Kathy, we can tackle that after tomorrow if you want - just let me know when you want to do that.

jlevinjal (6:04 PM): Dia, if you use Netscape, it will probably work.

MaggieISU99 (6:04 PM):   I was wondering, could someone give  me a brief referesher on how to set up the thing on my website where you can just click on it and it lets you email the author of the website?

jlevinjal (6:04 PM): At the very least, use Netscape to edit your "signature" Dia.

roxydirector (6:04 PM):   is my picture showing up for others if they are on netscape?

klindworthdavis (6:04 PM):     I would appreciate that very much.  It has benn quite aggrivating.

(6:04 PM) coacheder has entered the room.

coacheder (6:05 PM):       Hi guys!

jlevinjal (6:05 PM): Sure Maggie - just create a link and for the URL, put in    mailto:youremail

jlevinjal (6:05 PM): Hi Karen, how's it going

jlevinjal (6:05 PM): Kathy, email me when you want to work on the graphics thing.

MaggieISU99 (6:05 PM):   I knew it was easy, i just could not remember.  Thanks Jim.  Hi karen

coacheder (6:05 PM):       OK- I can't get my e-mail to links to work- can you help?

jlevinjal (6:05 PM): Same question Maggie just asked.

jlevinjal (6:06 PM): Create some text, and click on the link tool.

coacheder (6:06 PM):       I just read your response and I have tried three different addresses- any clues?

(6:06 PM) kragged has entered the room.

jlevinjal (6:06 PM): and for the URL, put in    mailto:youremail    (no spaces), where   youremail   is your email.

coacheder (6:06 PM):       no luck!

jlevinjal (6:07 PM): What's it doing (or not doing), Karen?

jlevinjal (6:07 PM): Hi kragged - that's John Ki, right?

kragged (6:07 PM):   yes, hi all.

coacheder (6:07 PM):       I get a Problem With Shortcut message

jlevinjal (6:08 PM): Karen, if its still not working, let's work on it after this office hour, either tonight or sometime after presentations tomorrow.

coacheder (6:08 PM):       Ok- have you sent out the schedule for tomorrow yet?

jlevinjal (6:08 PM): Everyone okay with the schedule?

kragged (6:08 PM):   yup

jlevinjal (6:08 PM): Yes, I emailed it today - you didn't get it Karen?

klindworthdavis (6:08 PM):     yeah.

coacheder (6:08 PM):       I'm checking.

jlevinjal (6:09 PM): I'll put it in the Resoruces conference also after we're done here.

coacheder (6:10 PM):       I got it Jim- Thanks!

jlevinjal (6:11 PM): great, I'm looking forward to tomorrow - how about you all?

coacheder (6:11 PM):       Just want to make sure, I can cut and paste from a word document onto webboard- correct?

klindworthdavis (6:11 PM):     yes.  I am anxious to hear what everyone has to sy about there pages.

coacheder (6:11 PM):       me too.

roxydirector (6:11 PM):   Yeah. Not looking forward to starting a new class tho. I was just getting used to this one.

jlevinjal (6:12 PM): Yes, but test it out ahead of time - there may be an upper limit of how much you can paste.

klindworthdavis (6:12 PM):     It looks like we will be very busy in the next class.

coacheder (6:12 PM):       ok

MaggieISU99 (6:12 PM):   what exactly is everyone thinking about saying about their presentations?

jlevinjal (6:12 PM): Yes, these 4 week summer course are pretty intense.

kragged (6:12 PM):   I'm planning for people to have the website and AIM open. ok plan?

jlevinjal (6:13 PM): Sure, just remember to give people a chance to see a web site before you move on with more text.

MaggieISU99 (6:13 PM):   can we ask questions during the presentation?  or should we hold them to the end?

jlevinjal (6:13 PM): Hold them to the end, please.

jlevinjal (6:13 PM): 8 minutes for each  presentation, 2 minutes for questions.

coacheder (6:14 PM):       I see now how AIM is good- even if you are elsewhere- you can hear the next message!

MaggieISU99 (6:14 PM):   is there anything we HAVE to cover?

jlevinjal (6:14 PM): no, maggie, just let us know what are the most interesting/most important things you learned from your project.

roxydirector (6:14 PM):   Check out last years presentations on the sylabus page.

jlevinjal (6:14 PM): start out with a brief reminder of what your project is.

MaggieISU99 (6:14 PM):   That I can do. 

MaggieISU99 (6:15 PM):   oh yeah, dia, good idea, thanks.

jlevinjal (6:15 PM): Good suggestion, Dia.  The links are on the syllabus page for final projects.

coacheder (6:15 PM):       Seems like when I read those they would take less than 8 min

roxydirector (6:15 PM):   I guess I'll just give up on the photo thing. I jsut tried Netscape and it doesn't work either.

jlevinjal (6:15 PM): Well, some of them were shorter.  Remember to give people a chance to read.

jlevinjal (6:15 PM): What photo thing, Dia?

roxydirector (6:16 PM):   Getting the phot o in webboard

roxydirector (6:16 PM):   my photo

jlevinjal (6:16 PM): Oh, in the signature.  Yes, like I said, when you're working on that, use Mac Netscape rather than Mac IE.

coacheder (6:16 PM):       My mail program is still unable to send mail- when I have clicked on others, though, it pops up

roxydirector (6:17 PM):   i did just not and it didn't work either.

jlevinjal (6:17 PM): Did you re-edit your signature, Dia.

roxydirector (6:17 PM):   Yeah.

jlevinjal (6:17 PM): Then you created a new posting?

roxydirector (6:17 PM):   Yes

jlevinjal (6:17 PM): And the image thing was still broken?

roxydirector (6:18 PM):   It didn't even come up this time. just the words.

jlevinjal (6:18 PM): Try using Netscape to create the posting.

roxydirector (6:18 PM):   I did. But I'll try again. Hold on.

jlevinjal (6:19 PM): If that doesn't work, let's deal with this after this office hour.

roxydirector (6:19 PM):   OK

jlevinjal (6:19 PM): Any other questions or issues?

jlevinjal (6:20 PM): If you want a preview of your next course, you can look at the web site for that same course that was taught in June to the CTER3 folks.

jlevinjal (6:20 PM): There's a link on the home CTER page.

klindworthdavis (6:20 PM):     He sent out an email today with a link to our site for the course.

kragged (6:20 PM):   I just want to try putting a link in here.

kragged (6:20 PM):   http://www.wolfram.com

jlevinjal (6:20 PM): That worked.

kragged (6:20 PM):   great, it's automatic

coacheder (6:21 PM):       How do you send a link in Webboard- I will experiment tonight- automatic?

jlevinjal (6:21 PM): I think so - its been a while since I tried it.

kragged (6:22 PM):   want to go try Karen?

coacheder (6:22 PM):       Yes please!

kragged (6:22 PM):   i'll see you over there.

jlevinjal (6:22 PM): let me know if it works or not, Karen & John.

coacheder (6:22 PM):       ok!

MaggieISU99 (6:24 PM):   ok, gotta go, last minute project changes,  everyone have a nice night!

jlevinjal (6:24 PM): ok, cu tomorrow Maggie.

MaggieISU99 (6:24 PM):   see you bright and early

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kragged (6:24 PM):   see ya

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klindworthdavis (6:25 PM):     Well, I am off as well.  "See" everyone in the morning.  bye

jlevinjal (6:25 PM): Ok, cu tomorrow morning, Kathy.

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(6:26 PM) NairbNt has entered the room.

jlevinjal (6:26 PM): Hi brian.

NairbNt (6:26 PM):   Hi Jim

jlevinjal (6:27 PM): How's it going?  Ready for tomorrow?

NairbNt (6:27 PM):   I fixed those links in my final report page to view

jlevinjal (6:27 PM): You changed the https ones?  Good!

jlevinjal (6:27 PM): Everything works now?

NairbNt (6:27 PM):   yeah, I forgot to do it right before submitting

NairbNt (6:27 PM):   everything seemed to work okay

jlevinjal (6:28 PM): Great - I'll take a look after this office hour is over.

coacheder (6:28 PM):       I can't paste in web board

NairbNt (6:28 PM):   thanks

jlevinjal (6:28 PM): Try using the keystroke paste?

coacheder (6:28 PM):       any advice?

coacheder (6:28 PM):       Ctrlv?

coacheder (6:28 PM):       no luck

jlevinjal (6:29 PM): Hmm, let me give it a try.

jlevinjal (6:29 PM): hold on

kragged (6:30 PM):   Karen, will it paste to a notepad or other document?

coacheder (6:30 PM):       yes

coacheder (6:31 PM):       http://students.ed.uiuc.edu/keder/Major%20Project/Physics_Main_Page.html

coacheder (6:31 PM):       It just worked here!

jlevinjal (6:31 PM): Ok, for me, it doesn't show up when I paste, but it does when I hit return.

jlevinjal (6:31 PM): (enter)

jlevinjal (6:31 PM): Try that, Ctrl-V then Enter

coacheder (6:32 PM):       ok- be back

NairbNt (6:33 PM):   This is a link to my project homepage

jlevinjal (6:33 PM): That worked.

NairbNt (6:33 PM):   You dont have to click just testing for tomorrow

coacheder (6:36 PM):       Jim- if I can't fix this- is it too late to switch my method of presentation?

jlevinjal (6:36 PM): No, just let me know before 9am tomorrow.

NairbNt (6:39 PM):   Seems like everything is working okay for copy and paste.  I kept statements down to about 2-3 sentences.  About how long this is.  I will see you tomorrow at 9.

jlevinjal (6:40 PM): Okay, great.

NairbNt (6:40 PM):   bye

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coacheder (6:41 PM):       My project blah blah blahThis is my project homepage

coacheder (6:41 PM):       That link didn't work?!

kragged (6:41 PM):   nope

jlevinjal (6:42 PM): http://faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/j-levin

kragged (6:42 PM):   but the previous one did

jlevinjal (6:42 PM): This is some text

coacheder (6:42 PM):       How do you copy and past a link from a word doc?

coacheder (6:42 PM):       This is my project homepage

jlevinjal (6:42 PM): To get text linked, you need to just type in the URL, or click on the "link" tool.

jlevinjal (6:43 PM): here.

coacheder (6:43 PM):       it is-- I can't copy it and paste it here to work

coacheder (6:43 PM):       at least I can paste here, though I could just paste the url

jlevinjal (6:43 PM): link

coacheder (6:43 PM):       http://students.ed.uiuc.edu/keder/Major%20Project/Physics_Main_Page.html

coacheder (6:43 PM):       That works

kragged (6:44 PM):   yes it does

coacheder (6:44 PM):       Not as pretty, though

coacheder (6:45 PM):       http://students.ed.uiuc.edu/keder/Major%20Project/Physics_Main_Page.html

coacheder (6:45 PM):       Sorry- I am just trying different things

coacheder (6:45 PM):       This is my project homepage

jlevinjal (6:46 PM): Why not just paste in the URL, Karen.

coacheder (6:46 PM):       UUUGGGGGGHHHHHH!  Jim I think I will use this- absoutely no luck in Webboard-

jlevinjal (6:46 PM): Ok, I'll change you to AIM.

coacheder (6:46 PM):       it looks better the other way- oh, well

coacheder (6:46 PM):       Thanks

kragged (6:48 PM):   Ok gotta go--I'm on a lake in Maine and it's time to cook the lobsters.

coacheder (6:48 PM):       I'm jealous!

jlevinjal (6:48 PM): Lobster!  Wow - have a few for us.

coacheder (6:48 PM):       Have fun- and I'l see you tomorrow

kragged (6:48 PM):   bye all

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jlevinjal (6:49 PM): Ok, just run through your presentation ahead of time to make sure it goes smoothly.

coacheder (6:49 PM):       Do you  have some time to help me troubleshoot that e-mail link

jlevinjal (6:49 PM): Sure, let's do it.

coacheder (6:50 PM):       When click my name to send an email- it says that the mail program was unable to send mail

jlevinjal (6:50 PM): Ok, what's the URL of the file you're trying to put an email link to.

coacheder (6:51 PM):       Of the page I'm putting the link on?

jlevinjal (6:51 PM): Yes.

coacheder (6:52 PM):       http://students.ed.uiuc.edu/keder/Major%20Project/Physics_Main_Page.html

jlevinjal (6:52 PM): ok, the email link on that page works for me.

coacheder (6:53 PM):       Really?  Good!

coacheder (6:53 PM):       Should my links not work for me?

coacheder (6:53 PM):       (relief)

jlevinjal (6:53 PM): Are you viewing them by typing in the   http://   link?

coacheder (6:53 PM):       yes

coacheder (6:54 PM):       then when I click on my email address I get the error message

jlevinjal (6:54 PM): Hmm, what's the message again?

coacheder (6:54 PM):       The mail program was unable to send mail

jlevinjal (6:55 PM): Do you have the preferences set for sending email?  (does it work with other emai links?)

jlevinjal (6:55 PM): Try going to my page: http://faculty.ed.uiuc.edu/j-levin and click on my email.

coacheder (6:56 PM):       I tried everyone else's major projects- thought I was troubleshooting- no problems there

jlevinjal (6:57 PM): Ok, don't worry about it - looks like it works.  Sometimes you just move on without ever figuring out some of these things

jlevinjal (6:57 PM): just-in-time/just-enough troubleshooting

coacheder (6:57 PM):       IOk- I will switch if you don't mind and I'll see you tomorrow!

jlevinjal (6:58 PM): ok, I've posted the new schedule in Webboard.

coacheder (6:58 PM):       thanks!

jlevinjal (6:58 PM): cu tomorrow morning.

coacheder (6:58 PM):       bye!  

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